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Three La Salle Schwinn straight bar estate sale find and ID help please

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Jonswan

Look Ma, No Hands!
I bought three prewar straight bar bicycles this weekend at an estate sale and need help in positively identifying and dating them. Once I know what they are, I will decide which to keep, which to sell.

The seller thought these were made of gold and I did not know much about pre war ballon tire Schwinns except they are cool and I wanted one. After some negotiation, I bought all three. They look terrible, dirty and rusty but the frames are solid and all are 26". I may keep one as a rusty rat rod, restore a second one to original and sell the third once I know what I have. I did some research on these bikes and now understand the early Schwinn factory records were lost in a factory fire so identifying them is more difficult. There is a link to prewar serial number on Bicycle Chronicles' website http://www.bicyclechronicles.com/#!serials/cid0 Two frames are badged "La Salle Chicago Cycle Supply Co." and the one does not have a badge. La Salle apparently rebadged Schwiin bikes between 1931 and 1940. Any help, references, links is appreciated. Here they are:
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From left to right, bike #2 (early straight bar type), #1 middle bike with basket, bike #3 right side, broken handle bar.



Bike #1 with basket, serial # B79926, crank is stamped with "S" and '610"
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I put new black 26" x 2.125" brick pattern tires and new tubes on the basket bike last night, it looks great and I am going to keep it this way for now. A local bike shop is digging out a used but usable skip tooth chain and some pedals for me and I will take her out for a ride.
 
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Bike #2 with earlier angular straight bar type, serial number # W6253 and sweetheart crank stamped "AS & Co" and "41" so this a 1941 Schwinn crank, but the geometry of the frame looks 1933 or 1934?
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Bike #3 broken handle bar, no wheels, no badge, no serial number, sweetheart crank stamped "AS & Co." and "40" . What is it? Schwinn or?
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No serial numbers?
 
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Nice score! Looks like the crank & chain ring on bike #1 should be fore a bike more like #2 and the crank & chain ring on #2 should be for a bike like #1.
The chain ring on #1 looks more like Columbia Westfield
Not saying the #2 is a Columbia but the both look like they have the wrong ring in them.
I would still be smiling from ear to ear on a haul like that!
Time for a Oxalic Acid bath for all of them. You would be amazed at what is under all of the surface rust.
JKent
 
Thanks Jkent. I agree the rings and cranks are throwing me off. I would really like to positively identify these bikes so I can decide what to do with them. For now I am going to swap a better seat on to bike #1 and ride it as is. Remarkably, the rims are still true. The other bikes have their hardware soaking in Kroil and a mixture of ATF and acetone to loosen the rusty hardware and frozen pedals. In addition to the cool old bicycle license plate on bike #1, I found an old bicycle license badge which I will keep on the bike.
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Anyone know of a link to La Salle Cycle Co.'s history, sales ads, catalogue, etc ?
 
local help for info

Jonswan, I live in Winona and have been collecting Schwinns for 20+ years. I have catalogs, reference bikes and some literature to review, and have a few prewar Schwinns in my basement to help compare. Many times just the parts can id the approximate year. I'd be willing to help out, just email me at [email protected] or [email protected]. If you spoke to Tim at Kolters he has my number too.
 
In the Sprocket Compilation thread it has the sprocket on Bicycle #1 as a Wald sprocket.
Maybe aftermarket? But not the same as the westfield sprocket.
Look at post #7 sprocket #6

http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?41683-Sprocket-compilation-PIC-HEAVY


And by looking at the wheel to fender spacing on bicycle #2 it looks like it should have 28" wheels.
JKent

Thanks for the link, you are right, it is a Wald sprocket and the 26" wheels do look undersized in this frame. The plot thickens...
 
Genuine Rides, it is a small world, thanks and I will send you an e-mail. I do buy from Kolter's when ever possible and he is digging out a skip tooth chain for me.
 
I would imagine the '41 sprocket in the tall frame motorbike may have come from the bike with the Wald setup.
 
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