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Troxel Long Spring Model Info ??

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Miq

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
I've been working on a long spring Troxel Saddle and was wondering if someone could share with me any info on the model number or name of this very common seat. When I got it, it still had some remnants of the original covering. It was covered on both the top and bottom of the metal pan and stitched around the edge.
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I searched here and at google for info on this 1930's ?? seat but I keep coming up with little info. I see ads for "Motor Bike", "Eagle", "Climax", etc. saddles but none of them are this very common seat. There's a lot of Troxels with side flaps and flat bar carriages with oval cut out. These saddles don't have those.

I imagine this is a simple (and super comfy) seat made as an OEM piece for multiple bike manufacturers, and that's why I see lots of them. This Silver King ad posted here had a very close looking saddle specified as "Model 50". Is that what I have?
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I found a pic of a VERY well preserved saddle that looks like it could be the same. I'm amazed at how new this looks!
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Here are some pics of my refurbished Troxel Long Spring saddle. I know it's not professionally restored (since I did it :)), but it works on my rat bike. Can anyone tell me if there is a specific model name or number for this saddle when it was manufactured?
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Looks like I put the entire spring assembly in 180 degrees off from original (oriented the bar wrong during assembly). Sure rides nice. Easy to fix next time I get it apart.

Thank for any info you can share.
 
the #50 shown in the advert above looks to be what's referred to as the aerocycle saddle:

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/t...orrect-for-silver-king-m1-or-flocycle.156806/

what you have could be an M1?
i've seen 2 basic types of these single-pan troxels: 1 with the upholstery (2 layers) entirely covering the underside of the pan and one that has teeth around the underside to hold a strip of 2 layers of upholstery.
 
@rustjunkie You rock! The one I received had the upholstery covering the bottom stitched around the edge. You're right, the Aerocycle saddle has that metal edge roll? that the leather is tucked into. My saddle is not like that.

Why is it so hard to find ads or info on these? M1?

Thank you!
 
Some other CABE pics of the M1

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The rivets are neat. Help mechanically attach the leather, provide crash tab like protection, and look good.

What's the deal with the shape of the bottom springs? Sometimes they have a flat bottom, but I also see them with a domed bottom. Can you tell the age from this?
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1939 Hawthorne Comet

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1940 Hawthorne American

No rivets in these OEM seats. ??

Still weeding through it....
 
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US20133353 Assigned to Troxel
Filed Oct. 4, 1932
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Linder was the man with the plan for the frame in 1932.

But Brandt was the man with the opposing spring Idea in 1926. There were similar set ups even before this.
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