Trying to identify Dad's bike and bring her back


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DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#1
Dad got this bike second hand when he was a kid. He thinks he remembers it being a Shelby. he took the head badge off to place a WWII Messenger Decal in its place. During the war he couldn't get 28 inch tires so he put smaller wheels on it. He changed the handlebars, put a light on the fender and a flashlight bracket on the handle bars and a horn. He also added a two speed to it because he used it to deliver meats for a butcher
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. Originally he said it was a brownish red with a white stripe down the fenders. Any hints as to exactly the year and model? I would like to find the correct head badge.
 

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#4
could have been one of many badges shelby used in that era notice it is a camelback no undertank bar and a different probably accessory tank- ND 2 speed is from the war era and a bonus! ps see if the speedometer is still around...
 

Archie Sturmer

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 13, 2018
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#6
Chain ring looks Shelby; maybe stem too. Tank looks McCauley #3 (2-1/2" height).
Not sure if frame is pre-balloon Shelby, too hard to see.
Side holes for badge, seat post pinch-bolt might indicate Westfield Mass?
28-inch tires indicate it could be late 1920's to early 1930's.
Maybe flip it over and see the serial number?
 
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DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#7
I flipped it over last night. have to trace out the number as it was stamped not so well. Thing that puzzled me about it being a Shelby is there is no bar on the frame under the tank. He said he put the tank on it too. Kept his tools in it:) The seat is there too. I'll take a snap of that too.
 

DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#9
could have been one of many badges shelby used in that era notice it is a camelback no undertank bar and a different probably accessory tank- ND 2 speed is from the war era and a bonus! ps see if the speedometer is still around...
Yes the speedo is there. We found a replacement for it because the glass had broken and the face plate is a bit shabby.
 

DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#10
Chain ring looks Shelby; maybe stem too. Tank looks McCauley #3 (2-1/2" height).
Not sure if frame is pre-balloon Shelby, too hard to see.
Side holes for badge, seat post pinch-bolt might indicate Westfield Mass?
28-inch tires indicate it could be late 1920's to early 1930's.
Maybe flip it over and see the serial number?
He said the original tires where solid with no inner tube. You cemented them in place.
 

DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
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27
57
Middletown NY
#12
I dont know who made it but the features do Not look Shelby; Seat Stays, Head tube or BB
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Thanks! Cool bike. What is a BB? I'm new to this:) He said that the handlebar stem was replaced because the original one broke. He went to the local bike shop and they sold him one. He said back then you could go into any bike shop and buy anything!
 

DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#14
I can take a photo of that too when I dismantle it. Want to paint it before winter.
 

Archie Sturmer

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 13, 2018
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Los Angeles, CA, USA
#15
“H” serial number could be 1930 Westfield.

Many manufacturers had these type frames with drop bar or double bar. (It is best practice to compare apples to apples).
1935 Shapleigh catalog 10 Wonder.jpg
1929 Shapleigh cat. color 2 Rugby Brown.jpg
Westfield had many in-house badges, and also supplied bikes to stores with their own brand names.
Shelby - Shapleigh, sound sort of similar?
 
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Archie Sturmer

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 13, 2018
150
90
33
Los Angeles, CA, USA
#16
You have a classic bike, also with sentimental value. You may wish to clean it up, make it rideable again, and use most of the original parts.
Original, in this case meaning original to your Dad's bike, which he received second hand, and made some changes to by himself, over the years.
Or maybe it may receive some upgrades?
Things to consider, some Westfield bikes may sport some odd dimensions (in the areas of headsets and bottom brackets; cups and cones).
Looks to be getting 90-years old soon, wonder how many colors of paint it received over the years, and if any original brownish-red paint might be left underneath.
 
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DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#18
You have a classic bike, also with sentimental value. You may wish to clean it up, make it rideable again, and use most of the original parts.
Original, in this case meaning original to your Dad's bike, which he received second hand, and made some changes to by himself, over the years.
Or maybe it may receive some upgrades?
Things to consider, some Westfield bikes may sport some odd dimensions (in the areas of headsets and bottom brackets; cups and cones).
Looks to be getting 90-years old soon, wonder how many colors of paint it received over the years, and if any original brownish-red paint might be left underneath.
Hi and thanks for all the info.

Yes! My intention is to put all Dad's goodies back on it, but with a repaint and what not. He is 89 and sharp as a tack and swears it was is a Shelby. We had the head badge in a box, but when we moved it didn't come with us. I am trying to locate the person who got them up in NY. There are the remains of the original red down the seat post tube. He is the only one who repainted it around 1939. He took the badge off to put the WWII Messenger decal on it in it's place. Hopefully the original rims are still there and I can get them!
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DaveZ

Look Ma, No Hands!
Oct 2, 2018
26
27
57
Middletown NY
#20
Thanks Dave! That is the goal, the tires are a bit crispy though:) They are a weird 27". I'll see what happens when I try to air them up:)
 

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