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Mixing of the old and new is very much alive in my world of muscle cars. We hated to see these resto mods when it first started but the quality of the cars and the younger crowd enjoying them has really given the hobby a shot in the arm. I will always prefer dead stock as delivered but can now enjoy and appreciate the new takes on the old.
I agree 100% in the car reference. I have 5 vintage collector cars ( couple of vintage motorcycles/a new retro looking Triumph, too many bicycles, and on and on..), almost 100% bone stock # matching. I still admire and appreciate resto rods. Even with the reproduction bikes ( albeit the ones made offshore are usually crap) and Corgi toys for example. I bought a repro Columbia RX-5 in Hershey back in the late 1980's just out of curiosity ( Fom the late Larry Busch from Memory Lane if I recall), and yes because it was shiny and new, BUT my main interest was and still is VINTAGE. The proportion is not favourable of people who will buy the cheaper repro's ( probably 10-1 in favour of cheap repro/shiny to OG) but at least they are entering the hobby appreciating the design of the old school originals. It is more affordable in some cases. It's getting younger people involved. I find ( for myself anyway) that there are still hardcore people that want original. Another good example are vintage signs. TONS of repro's out there, I even have a few in my garage ( gas and oil/soda pop/bicycle/car/pinup) but most of my main area are OG. Practicality and affordability are factors to consider.

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A different object but the same concept.

My father owned a music store from the 50's to the 80's. One of the main sources of income was renting band instruments to students. These insruments were used and often not shiny but were of high quality and great sound. It was a functioning business model until Chinese made band instruments started coming in. These Chinese instruments were cheaply made and sounded like crap! But... they were shiny and cheap. Someone could buy one for the same as 3 months rent for a high quality insrument from my father, and it came with a case! No kid wanted to play in band after that with anything but a shiny new trumpet or whatever. Needless to say it put my father's store out of business in less than a year.

Moral of the story is most people want shiny and new, not old and great quality. certainly not old and rusty with paint faded and worn off (patina). We collectors of history are in the minority if you really want to do the numbers. But that can be a good thing as there is less competition to attain the great old stuff. Always look for the good in the bad.
i threw away everything chinese in my house. i was a bike shop mechanic for decades. china ruined bikes and the bike industry and market. eff everything chinese except their people who are held captive by an oppressive regime. i pray for the chinese people daily
 
I think you nailed with one word. LAZY. People are not prepared to work for anything anymore. Turn key pleasure, whether it be a greasy burger, cheap off shore bicycle, or a chemical buzz. The work ethic and pride of quality items made locally ( lets Say North America to include Canada, but there are lots of quality items made worldwide) by skilled craftsmen/women are being ignored and forgotten. It's all about convenience and FAST EASY pleasure. Shamefull really. We have created this monster. Not Cabers, but society as a whole.

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I work with this charity organization here that recycles Bicycles. They call me when they get anything old or out of the ordinary. I make a donation and they let me pick through their junk piles. They have these bike drives in each town collecting unwanted bikes. We’re Talking thousands upon thousands of bikes that don’t even have the nubs worn off the tires. It’s so crazy that these bikes have barely been used. They hang onto only bike shop quality bikes and refurbish them and sell or donate them to people fir transportation. They give out a lot of free bikes to the working poor. All of the box store bikes either get scrapped or this one guy comes by grabs all the kids bikes and piles them up on his trailer and ships them by the shipping container to Costa Rica for the kids to have. It’s crazy the number of people that pay top dollar for brand new bikes and don’t even use them. Their warehouse has easily 5000 bikes and growing. And this is just one small city! imagine what it’s like in places that don’t have a program like this the waste is obscene.
 
I used to think that no Honda would ever be considered a classic.
I thought wrong!

Good point , like the "Huffy" bmx; who would have ever thunk? .
Another is folks trying to predict what will be Collectable in the future. Of course alot of us are just trying to grasp a little bit of our child hood and then it gets out of hand with all things of that period, difference is our Generation had a lot of things that were made with quality.

Rafael ~
 
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