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juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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Hello Nate, West of Java,
thank you for posting; very fine job with the photos
if only all ID inquiry threads came with pictures this good!
suspect it may be F-A-V-O-R-I-T of the then Czechoslovakia
if from this maker shell will be BSC thread
top tube will be 25.4mm in diameter
down and seat tubes will be 28.6mm in diameter
original spacing: 100mm front, 120mm rear
the marque is part of an export group called Motokov Praha
other marques within the group include Jawa, Rapido, Pioneer and Velamos
model appears a one up from the base sort of machine, not the base and not the top, there were two or three models above it
the two features which raise the from above lower models are the forged dropouts and the semi-wraparoung seat stay treatment
lower model frames are constructed with stamped ends and emply a seatstay treatment where the seat lug has sockets into which fit the upper ends of the seat stays
chainset of course not original to cycle
when chainset mounted to cycle the original bottom bracket bearing cups were reused
looks like pump pegs and dropout eyelets have been removed
you may be able to see the "stubs" where the pump pegs were formerly located on the underside of the top tube
you may be able to see hacksaw marks on edges of dropouts where eyelets were removed
the "72" in the serial number is the date
importer would have been American Jawa Ltd., 185 Express Street, Plainview, Long Island, NY 11803
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kitting -
nearly all of the cycle's original fittings would have been marked Favorit. chainset Favorit cottered steel. gear ensemble Favorit model PWB (Prague-Warsaw-Berlin). Favorit Centric centrepull brakes. Favorit bimetal girder stem with alloy bar. Favorit chrome steel rattrap pedals. wheels may have been tubulars. hubs marked either Favorit or ESKA, tyres BARUM. headset chrome steel and unmarked. saddle conventional leather marked Favorit. saddle pillar may have been plain chrome steel or may have been a Favorit model in chrome steel somewhat similar to Simplex design.
one common colour for this model at this time was a kind of chartreuse somewhat similar to "Legnano green." you may be able to find traces of original finish inside bottom bracket shell, head tube or seat tube.
should you wish to pursue a refinish the period correct replica transfer set is readily available at reasonable cost:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-...0001&campid=5335809022&icep_item=113671967570
several cycles from the manufacturer are part of the permanent exhibit at the Sterba Bicycle Museum of Prague -
manufacturer history -
www.favorit.cz
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Hello Nate, West of Java,
thank you for posting; very fine job with the photos
if only all ID inquiry threads came with pictures this good!
suspect it may be F-A-V-O-R-I-T of the then Czechoslovakia
if from this maker shell will be BSC thread
top tube will be 25.4mm in diameter
down and seat tubes will be 28.6mm in diameter
original spacing: 100mm front, 120mm rear
the marque is part of an export group called Motokov Praha
other marques within the group include Jawa, Rapido, Pioneer and Velamos
model appears a one up from the base sort of machine, not the base and not the top, there were two or three models above it
the two features which raise the from above lower models are the forged dropouts and the semi-wraparoung seat stay treatment
lower model frames are constructed with stamped ends and emply a seatstay treatment where the seat lug has sockets into which fit the upper ends of the seat stays
chainset of course not original to cycle
when chainset mounted to cycle the original bottom bracket bearing cups were reused
looks like pump pegs and dropout eyelets have been removed
you may be able to see the "stubs" where the pump pegs were formerly located on the underside of the top tube
you may be able to see hacksaw marks on edges of dropouts where eyelets were removed
the "72" in the serial number is the date
importer would have been American Jawa Ltd., 185 Express Street, Plainview, Long Island, NY 11803
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kitting -
nearly all of the cycle's original fittings would have been marked Favorit. chainset Favorit cottered steel. gear ensemble Favorit model PWB (Prague-Warsaw-Berlin). Favorit Centric centrepull brakes. Favorit bimetal girder stem with alloy bar. Favorit chrome steel rattrap pedals. wheels may have been tubulars. hubs marked either Favorit or ESKA, tyres BARUM. headset chrome steel and unmarked. saddle conventional leather marked Favorit. saddle pillar may have been plain chrome steel or may have been a Favorit model in chrome steel somewhat similar to Simplex design.
one common colour for this model at this time was a kind of chartreuse somewhat similar to "Legnano green." you may be able to find traces of original finish inside bottom bracket shell, head tube or seat tube.
should you wish to pursue a refinish the period correct replica transfer set is readily available at reasonable cost:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-...0001&campid=5335809022&icep_item=113671967570
several cycles from the manufacturer are part of the permanent exhibit at the Sterba Bicycle Museum of Prague -
manufacturer history -
History | favorit
www.favorit.cz
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juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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addenda -
image showing seat cluster arrangement employed on lower model Favorit/Rapido/Jawa/Pioneer bicycles. stay top is blunt cut and inserted into seat lug socket for brazing - fast and easy:
Favorit combination pump peg and housing stop -
PWB rear gear mech -
the bimetal Favorit girder stem -
1973 one down from the top model. kitted with a mix of Favorit and Campag NR components, with Sheffield pedals in this case -
www.sterba-bike.cz
Czech cycles & cycling forum -
www.bike-forum.cz
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addenda -
image showing seat cluster arrangement employed on lower model Favorit/Rapido/Jawa/Pioneer bicycles. stay top is blunt cut and inserted into seat lug socket for brazing - fast and easy:
Favorit combination pump peg and housing stop -
PWB rear gear mech -
the bimetal Favorit girder stem -
1973 one down from the top model. kitted with a mix of Favorit and Campag NR components, with Sheffield pedals in this case -
Favorit 1973 - race bike
Favorit 1973 - race bike - Sports and racing bicycles, components / Archive - Sold / Archive - Sold / Archive - STERBA-BIKE.cz
www.sterba-bike.cz
Czech cycles & cycling forum -
Největší web o kolech - Bikeforum.cz
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