These are the second easiest pedal prewar pedal types to locate; the Wald replacements come in first. With that being said, they still do command a respectable price as they were a stock pedal on many bicycles. Jason, I have tagged you on over 10 pairs in the past two years. It seems strange that none never rate well with you. The last time you came to my house I had a shelf with over a dozen pairs all in varying grades but you didn't even look. Maybe you should consider refining your post to say that you want "Torrington 8's" in an 8 or 9 condition at a certain price point acceptable to you ($25/pair???). Honestly I think you would have more success checking Ebay daily for these. We all wish you good luck as these are as easy to find as a taco stand in Albuquerque.