Westfield Frame Numbers 1933 - 1945

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von_hansel

On Training Wheels
Hi Adrian,
When I was researching the Westfield list on Tuesday, I found it interesting that there were only MG (Military) for serial numbers between 43xxx-46xxx as mine starts with G. My bicycle looks like it was originally blue and white and at some point someone painted red over areas of it.

I can try taking a wire brush to the frame next to the G to see if there is an "M" but it doesn't look like it in this photo.

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The badge on the frame is Westfield:
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Thank you to the link above to a restored Columbia. That is the paint style that mine looks like it originally came with. Would mine have originally come with a tank and the kickstand that attaches to the rear of the frame?

It looks like the front fender on mine has an area where a torpedo light was once attached.
 
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Mercian

I live for the CABE
Dear Johnny, @von_hansel

Thanj you for following up with pictures and information.

I think what you've done is enough to show it isn't a G519, although, as we see above, the frame number and type are exactly right. It's a bit of a mystery, since I can understand Westfield using up overrun frames frames on civilian bikes at the end of a military contract, but this is in the middle, and also there are J3 dated G519 frames that were produced after this.

It's bikes like this that (literally) fill in the gaps, though they raise questions also.

Anyway, a very interesting bike, and thanks for showing it.

As far as what it looked like originally. Westfield certainly were using up prewar parts, but whether a tank was considered essential, I doubt, but things were starnge at that point.

Here is (post 3) a similar bike belonging to @Car&bikeguy555, with the same colours and chainwheel, produced early the same month, but with the Pope badge instead. G35983 / J1. Although not exactly the same model, it is unrestored, and I'd be more inclined to believe i is as it left the factory.

.https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/need-some-westfield-columbia-bicycle-help.150891/

The stand on this looks to be a later fitment. For yours, look on the rear mudguard, below the reflector, if there's two holes drilled into it, one above the other, then it had a clip for the dropstand like the one below ( photo credit @John Gailey ). If not, then it was a kickstand.

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Best Regards,

Adrian
 

von_hansel

On Training Wheels
Hi Adrian,
I'm glad I was able to fill in the gaps. We do the same thing with air cooled VWs trying to figure what were the changes at what vin number/date on the smallest of details.

No, my rear mud guard does not have two holes drilled into it for a drop stand.

This is all great info. Thank you for the help and thank you for keeping this thread up to date with tons of great info!
 
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