Westfield Frame Numbers 1933 - 1945

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SKPC

I live for the CABE
Feb 2, 2018
1,235
62
Utah - United States
Elgin moto......1935 # N108547- found as a lone frame covered in purple housepaint..Some pins and paint remain.. (Edit. B9, additional stamping.)
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Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
494
52
France
Hi @tech549 , @SKPC and @Brutuskend ,

Thanks for your details, it's like buses, nothing for ages, then three at once (-:

tech549, yes, a 1938. This was a bad year for Westfield sales, which is evidenced by the frame manfacturing dates being all over the place when it came to completing the bikes. Your frame was made May 1938 (E5), but the surviving bicycles I have listed preceding yours, C87255, and following, C103097, were both E10, frames made in October 1938, so your frame was in stock for at least five months before being built up, between October and December 1938.

SKPC, a nice build from a bare frame. A 1935 bike coinciding with the start of Bluebird production Bluebird frame numbers surround this frame number. There is a May 1935 made frame about 5000 before this, so I guess yours was built up between June to late 1935. Please do you have the other code, stamped above the frame number, which would say when the frame was made? It's likely to be between B3 and B9?

Brutuskend, the frame code C10 says the frame was made October 1936, and built up before year end (a Christmas bicycle?). This too was surrounded by Bluebird and Robin serial numbers.

Again, Thanks for the help, I appreciate it. I have added them to the new lisrt for when it comes out.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 

Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
494
52
France
Hi @Joseph FINN

Nice bike.

I'm not sure if you want me to date it. If yes, could you give me the two sets of numbers stamped on the bb, like on Brutuskend's post above.

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Adrian
 

Joseph FINN

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 16, 2016
129
60
Braintree, Massachusetts
Hi @Joseph FINN

Nice bike.

I'm not sure if you want me to date it. If yes, could you give me the two sets of numbers stamped on the bb, like on Brutuskend's post above.

Thanks,

Best Regards,

Adrian
Yes I will get #

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ChiTownExPat

On Training Wheels
Sep 22, 2019
1
54
USA
Just picked this Elgin Lady up yesterday at a barn sale in MD. She was marked as a “1932 Elgin.”
Frame Number is D49663 and BB is F5, so in reality it looks like she just had her 80th Birthday this past May. I’m guessing she is a 1939 Ladies Special (or Sport)?
Thanks for everyone’s time, research, and shared posts - I’ve learned a lot in the past 24 hours.

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piercer_99

I live for the CABE
Dec 27, 2015
1,767
59
Sanger, TX
Hi Adrian,

I don't think that we added this specimen to the list.

1941 Elgin ladies deluxe sport.

as found, original tires were shot.
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After cleaning, polishing, a set of John's Chain Tread cream wall tires (still rolling on original tubes), a model and period correct Delta Winner, it's a looker.
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Serial and as I recall the date code is G 10
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Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
494
52
France
Hi ChiTownExPat,

Just picked this Elgin Lady up yesterday at a barn sale in MD. She was marked as a “1932 Elgin.”
Frame Number is D49663 and BB is F5, so in reality it looks like she just had her 80th Birthday this past May. I’m guessing she is a 1939 Ladies Special (or Sport)?
Thanks for everyone’s time, research, and shared posts - I’ve learned a lot in the past 24 hours.
Thanks for acknowledging the work put in by all here, it's appreciated (-:

It also helps when you supply the details that you have, in order to extend the knowledge for others, thanks again for that.

As you've figured out, Frame Number D49663 and BB F5 is a May 1939 frame, likely built up within a couple of months of that.

Bzest Regards;

Adrian
 

Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
494
52
France
Hi @NLeming ,

Thanks for the information.

You've probably figured that the F6 indicates the frame was made June 1939, and the D58553 is also a mid 1939 number, so it was built up shortly after the frame was made.

The 8236 is not a usual Westfield stamping, so possibly related to the exercise bike conversion?

Best Regards,

Adrian
 

NLeming

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Feb 24, 2016
16
38
Thanks @Mercian

I'm not sure on the odd stamping. The exercise bike stuff seems to be quite a bit newer than 1939. The drop outs were bent out a little to accommodate the stand so it wasn't made for this type of frame. The strap pedals and mile counter also seem to be later.

Any collector market for these? I bought it not knowing what it was with the intention of stripping for parts for a rusty men's frame. Not trying to get rich just dont want to murder something old/rare in ok shape.

Thanks again
 

mrg

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Aug 9, 2010
3,891
socal
The exercise attachment is 50/60's not worth anything except for a bike stand maybe, I had some in the box took forever to get rid of them, extra numbers probably city license or factory work bike, think I'd complete that boys frame if it's a similar year Westfield.
 

Sprockets

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 20, 2016
145
59
Athens, GA, United States
Looking for conformation of what I have please. Numbers are F194268 and H10, thanks.
 

Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
494
52
France
@Sprockets

Sorry for the delay, on Christmas holidays.

Anyway, the frame for F194268 and H10 was built October 1941, and this was the last month of production for civilian bikes before WW2.

Can you tell us more about your bike?

Thanks,

Adrian

PS, just noticed that the girls 'exercise bike' in post 53, just above yours, is the nearest survivor I have listed to your bike, only 290 after it, which in this game is damn close! I will be interested if yours is an F6 too.
 
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Sprockets

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 20, 2016
145
59
Athens, GA, United States
It is badged "Cadillac". It has a Morrow rear hub, coffin chainring, dogleg crank, Torrington stem and bars and unfortunately, only one Torrington pedal came with the bike. Strangely, the front hub is a Schwinn?. It's missing some correct parts so I'll be in search of those. None the less, I like it and think it will make a fun rider.
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Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
494
52
France
Hi Sprockets,

Yes, that looks like it will come out nicely. Thanks for putting up the pictires and extra information.

The Morrow hubs are dateable to the quarter and year of production too, so an age appropriate hub would have been made a short while before the frame.

The date stamp is to the lower left of the makes stamp, and is a single letter with a number 1-4, these being the quarter of production. The letters and dates are:

  1. 1931
  2. 1932
  3. 1933
  4. 1934
  5. 1935
  6. 1936
  7. 1937
  8. 1938
  9. 1939
  10. 1940
  11. 1941
  12. 1942
  13. 1943
  14. 1944
  15. 1945
  16. 1946
  17. 1947
  18. 1948
  19. 1949
  20. 1950
so yours could be a J or K.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 
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