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What is the make and model of this frame

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JSchwinn

Look Ma, No Hands!
Hi Cabers,

Could use help identifying the year, make and model if this frame and fork. Thanks in advance!

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And yes, frame&fork probably always together as AS noted. Note the rear lower bar/seatpost configuration. What is referered to as a "trumpet" joint. I think I have read here per AS that Westfield, the probable maker of the frame and fork, after 1930 experimented with these cool Trumpet connections...Schwinn used them as well, but this is not a schwinn frame or fork.
 
Hi @JSchwinn

To confirm, as @SKPC said, it's a 1931 Westfield made frame.

Here is a serial from the same year for comparison (picture from @kshimp41 ) https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/john-wanamaker-i-d-help.170815/

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I have no Elgins listed (so far) in this year, but Westfield were building for themselves, and a number of badges, including John Wannamaker, Hudson and The Progressive Cycle Company, as well as others.

Here is a similar frame from the same date (different fork:( https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/pre-war-comet-motobike.48716/

Best Regards,

Adrian
 
Hi @JSchwinn

To confirm, as @SKPC said, it's a 1931 Westfield made frame.

Here is a serial from the same year for comparison (picture from @kshimp41 ) https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/john-wanamaker-i-d-help.170815/

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I have no Elgins listed (so far) in this year, but Westfield were building for themselves, and a number of badges, including John Wannamaker, Hudson and The Progressive Cycle Company, as well as others.

Here is a similar frame from the same date (different fork:( https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/pre-war-comet-motobike.48716/

Best Regards,

Adrian
Thanks so much Adrian!
 
For some reason Westfield popped into my head immediately at looking at the first pic. Maybe the chain ring or trumpet at the seat tube & overall design. Like my Elgin. Then seeing the serial & another Elgin suggestion & @SKPC knowledge of these makes me feel like I'm learning here on the Cabe. 🤓 Have fun with it!
 
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