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Saving Tempest

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 6, 2012
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Earth (Middle)
Well, you have a ladies bike with what looks like a Columbia/Western Flyer like chainguard, the symbol above 5 on the seat tube is 'atomic'...I'd say early 50s...except for the indexed shifting...rain guitter venders.

What brand is the derailleur? The shift lever might have some indication.

The crank looks solid though. I'm not an expert on those however.

The optimist in me likes to believe I've seen worse.

What is the price for this?
 

Jeff54

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 11, 2013
2,226
Ft Myers, Florida
Based on front fender tip, style of frame, seat and stem, at a guess; I'd be checking Raleigh. For the color, prob late 60's-early 1970's Discount store like K-mart, off brand import.
 
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Oilit

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 30, 2015
788
Concord NC
The fenders, stem and crank look sort of English, but the lugs on the frame and those spot-welded drop-outs don't look like any English bike I've ever seen. Can we get a close-up of the rear hub? The only 5 speed hub I know of from the late 60's or early 70's was the Sturmey-Archer S5, but I've only seen those on Raleigh-built bikes.
 

Surfrider Jim

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 27, 2019
25
Madera, Ca 93610
The fenders, stem and crank look sort of English, but the lugs on the frame and those spot-welded drop-outs don't look like any English bike I've ever seen. Can we get a close-up of the rear hub? The only 5 speed hub I know of from the late 60's or early 70's was the Sturmey-Archer S5, but I've only seen those on Raleigh-built bikes.
Here ya go not sure those rims are the correct as a friend years ago was taking parts off it. The gooseneck is not correct either. But here are the possible rims to it. And check out the front sprocket.
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Oilit

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 30, 2015
788
Concord NC
Here ya go not sure those rims are the correct as a friend years ago was taking parts off it. The gooseneck is not correct either. But here are the possible rims to it. And check out the front sprocket.View attachment 1079875

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Your rear hub does look like it may be a Sturmey-Archer. Clean some of the dirt off it and you should be able to find the "Sturmey-Archer" logo, as well as a date code and model type. The three speed AW is the most common type, but if yours is a 5 speed, it will be marked S5 (I may need to double check that, but I think that's right). The 5 speeds had cables to both ends of the axle, the AW only had one on the right. I can't see enough of the chain wheel to tell anything by it.
 

razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
May 28, 2018
1,061
59
kiel wisconsin
Hi. I cant seem to find anything about this bike. Checkout the Badge? PremiumView attachment 1079823 and is that an Olympic logo? Any knowledge would be great . thank you and have a great day. JimView attachment 1079825View attachment 1079823

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Hard to determine what it is. I'm thinking English or Maybe Italian? Good luck with your search. Razin.
 

frankandpam

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 21, 2016
467
Tacoma Wa
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juvela

I live for the CABE
Aug 2, 2014
1,189
Playa del Rey, United States
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The head plate is the giveaway here.

"Premium" is the same as the Azuki & Jewel badges owned by Howie Cohen of West Coast Cycle Supply (WCCS) Co. in California. Manufacturers for the WCCS bicycles contract built in Japan were Kawamura & Kuwahara. Date of cycle is near to 1970 - probably very late 1960's.

It is quite common for cycle manufacturers and distributors to offer the same product lines under more than one name. In this way they can pack more product into a given market.

Quality/value: note the frame's bulge-formed head by Nikko Sankyo and its spot welded dropouts. This is the very bottom.

Here are some close cousin head emblems -

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American Flyer Jewel headplate  .jpg


Azuki brochure from WCCS -

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WCCS trade publication advert of 1971 -

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Howie Cohen passed away some years ago. The family maintains a retrospective web site about the business and its many associations here -

https://www.proteanpaper.com/scart_about.cgi?comp=howiebik

There is a wikipedia entry on the company and its history located here -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishiki_(bicycle_company)

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juvela

I live for the CABE
Aug 2, 2014
1,189
Playa del Rey, United States
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Our latest software update seems to have eliminated the "edit" option.

A small addendum -

Note the cluster of five shapes at the top of the Jewel head emblem posted above. The International Olympic Committee is most aggressive about policing the olympic rings symbol. Its use is legally protected. The Olympic Rings on the Premium head emblem were probably only in use a short time before they evolved to the shapes seen on the Jewel emblem above.

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SirMike1983

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 27, 2008
3,123
United States
I agree - looks like a Japanese frame to me, so probably a low-cost Japanese clone of an English bike. Could be a Shimano rear hub(?). Hard to tell the hub from the pictures, but probably a basic internal gear hub. The Sturmey is better than the Shimano, at least the vintage ones. But they're both workable hubs. It's a budget, general purpose bike. It's not especially old - late 60s or 1970s vintage probably.
 
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