Where can I find Schwinn fore brake spokes?


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Tim the Skid

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Jan 3, 2013
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#1
I'm re-lacing a '39 Schwinn fore brake and need double butted spokes for the high side of the hi-lo hub. It looks like they are about 9 3/4" or 248 mm. Anyone have a source for these? I don't want to use stainless as I have NOS Torringtons for the small side of the hub.
 
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island schwinn

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
May 10, 2010
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#5
I just looked through all my Torrington double butted spokes,and only have 9-5/16 here.
 

WES PINCHOT

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Aug 16, 2006
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#6
I HAVE LACED HI LOW FLANGE 26 INCH WHEEL DRUM BRAKES WITH ALL 10 5/8 INCH SPOKES IN CROSS OVER FOUR PATTERN.
THE PIC YOU HAVE SHOWN IS LACED CROSSOVER THREE SPOKE CONFIGURATION ON HIGH SIDE, WHICH MAY ACCOUNT FOR WHAT YOU HAVE SHOWN IN THE PHOTO.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A HI LOW LACED WITH DIFFERENT LENGTH SPOKES!
THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT COULD NOT BE BUILT THAT WAY.
 
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SKIDKINGSVBC

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Sep 2, 2008
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#9
When I had a hi-low for brake Rick Gilmore laced with all the same spoke lengths in that cross over four pattern ...
 

cyclingday

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 24, 2008
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#11
The wheel pictured, was laced with a cross four pattern on the low flange side and a cross three pattern on the high flange side.
Typically, you find them laced cross four on both flanges, and that's why you can use the same length spokes for both sides.
The ideal pattern for a wire spoke wheel, is to have the inbound spoke parallel or tangent with the out bound spoke on the opposite side of the flange.
The diameter of the flange doesn't affect the length of the spoke until you stretch it to the extreme.
Think of a rectangle.
Now start stretching the short length of the rectangle.
Does it affect the length of the long dimension?
No.
You can stretch the short sides until you make it square, and it still doesn't affect the long dimension.
10-5/8" for 26x2.125 balloon tire rim.
It doesn't matter if the hub is a large or small flange.
 

GTs58

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Sep 2, 2012
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#12
I'd like to see a picture of the hub with a 4 cross on the high side.
 

Tim the Skid

I live for the CABE
Jan 3, 2013
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Tacoma, United States
#13
The wheel pictured, was laced with a cross four pattern on the low flange side and a cross three pattern on the high flange side.
Typically, you find them laced cross four on both flanges, and that's why you can use the same length spokes for both sides.
The ideal pattern for a wire spoke wheel, is to have the inbound spoke parallel or tangent with the out bound spoke on the opposite side of the flange.
The diameter of the flange doesn't affect the length of the spoke until you stretch it to the extreme.
Think of a rectangle.
Now start stretching the short length of the rectangle.
Does it affect the length of the long dimension?
No.
You can stretch the short sides until you make it square, and it still doesn't affect the long dimension.
10-5/8" for 26x2.125 balloon tire rim.
It doesn't matter if the hub is a large or small flange.
Thanks Marty for the help. that's great info.
 

WES PINCHOT

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Aug 16, 2006
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#16
I THINK THE CROSS OVER FOUR SPOKES WAS INDUSTRY STANDARD UNTIL
SCHWINN CAME OUT WITH THE 'S-7 RIM WHICH WAS A CROSS OVER THREE SPOKE PATTERN.
 

ricobike

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 8, 2014
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#18
I THINK THE CROSS OVER FOUR SPOKES WAS INDUSTRY STANDARD UNTIL
SCHWINN CAME OUT WITH THE 'S-7 RIM WHICH WAS A CROSS OVER THREE SPOKE PATTERN.
I always wondered why they switched. It's either that it saved a small bit of weight (not likely) or the cross 3 pattern is stronger (more likely). It sure is easy only having to worry about one size of spokes though on the cross 4 pattern no matter what size of hub you use.
 

WES PINCHOT

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Aug 16, 2006
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#20
I always wondered why they switched. It's either that it saved a small bit of weight (not likely) or the cross 3 pattern is stronger (more likely). It sure is easy only having to worry about one size of spokes though on the cross 4 pattern no matter what size of hub you use.
SO TRUE!
I BELIEVE THE FOUR CROSSOVER FOUR WOULD BE STRONGER THAN THREE!
AND THEY SAY THE UNDER CROSSING OF THE SPOKES IS STRONGER,
BUT THE JURY IS OUT ON THAT!
 

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