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JimRoy

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 8, 2017
446
896
Indianapolis
#1
I restore approx 10-12 prewar bicycles a year and a few weeks ago I started my first 1943 Huffman G519 restoration. I have quickly learned that the wheels are darn hard to find. I have everything else except for a correct Persons seat and a bag. The frame is currently at my frame builders getting some repairs. JimRoy
 

GPWPAT

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 7, 2017
41
36
43
Lincoln, CA, United States
#2
Yes, these are very hard to find. The only solution I have found is to build a set. You can find NOS military wheel. They are pricey. Expect between 2 to 300 for the pair. Get 10G spokes. Find some civilian hub and lace them up. Then keep looking for original military hubs. Last pair I saw sold for $900. I will have $500 into just a set of wheels once they are laced up. This using civilian prewar marrow hub drilled out for 10G spokes, and a Bendix heavy duty hub from a cycle truck or wizzer.
 
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JimRoy

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 8, 2017
446
896
Indianapolis
#4
Yes, these are very hard to find. The only solution I have found is to build a set. You can find NOS military wheel. They are pricey. Expect between 2 to 300 for the pair. Get 10G spokes. Find some civilian hub and lace them up. Then keep looking for original military hubs. Last pair I saw sold for $900. I will have $500 into just a set of wheels once they are laced up. This using civilian prewar marrow hub drilled out for 10G spokes, and a Bendix heavy duty hub from a cycle truck or wizzer.
Thanks. I should have listened to Mrs. JimRoy and kept walking when i saw the old military bike frame for $125 . I will have well over a grand in the restoration .
 

Whitey1736

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 19, 2015
56
10
Connecticut, United States
#5
How could you not buy it for that? I’d love to find a frame especially for that price.

Thanks. I should have listened to Mrs. JimRoy and kept walking when i saw the old military bike frame for $125 . I will have well over a grand in the restoration .[/QUO
Thanks. I should have listened to Mrs. JimRoy and kept walking when i saw the old military bike frame for $125 . I will have well over a grand in the restoration .
 

Coslett

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 30, 2014
27
31
Berwick, United States
#8
JimRoy -

I do have a correct Eclipse 'M' 36-10 rear hub, 36-10 front hub, and proper rims. I also have the seat frame and possibly the seat pan.
 

JimRoy

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 8, 2017
446
896
Indianapolis
#9
I should be done with my G519 tribute build in a couple of weeks. I completed the wheels today. The front wheel was easy to lace and true. Lacing the rear wheel Morrow hub was a beast. They are so nice I can't stop looking at them. I will mount the tires this weekend and post pictures. JimRoy
 

GPWPAT

Look Ma, No Hands!
Sep 7, 2017
41
36
43
Lincoln, CA, United States
#11
Looks great. What front hub did you wind up going with? Where did you get your spokes?
 

JimRoy

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 8, 2017
446
896
Indianapolis
#12
After a few months of being buried on several other bikes, I’m back on the Military project. I should have final pictures in a couple of weeks. I’m planning to sell it as soon as I get it completed. Before I get too attached.
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johan willaert

Finally riding a big boys bike
Feb 5, 2013
259
121
Bruges, Belgium
www.theliberator.be
#13
Is it a straight tube frame? Is it dated 1943... Could you share the frame number?
If so it would have had a later fork with separate truss rod support plate instead of the integral supports.

A detail of course only important if you want it to resemble factory issue...
 

HUFFMANBILL

Look Ma, No Hands!
Jan 9, 2014
74
81
#14
Before you start priming the frame and forks, how about posting photo's of the frame serial number and year stampings. Can you also post a photo of the fork date code stamped on the rear of the fork horizontal plate. All of these stampings should be easy to read without the paint. Also, Johan is correct about the front forks. The only WWII Huffman's, that I am aware of, to use the style you have were the very early 1942 ( Approx., Jan. - Feb.) with the curved lower frame tube.

Regards,
Bill
 

JimRoy

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 8, 2017
446
896
Indianapolis
#15
I bought the Huffman frame off Facebook for $125 shipped. I didn’t realize is was a military frame until I flipped it over an saw the 1943 date. I started with just a frame so I’m calling it a tribute bike. I bought the fork from a Caber. The’re not a dime a dozen and it was the only one I could find at the time. I scrounged together all the other parts and I built the wheels myself. Hopefully it will look all right when I get it done. Thanks for asking and I will post the serial numbers. I like the challenge of working on old bikes. When one is completed I start on the next. I’m a lousy salesman so they usually collect dust. Let me know if you know someone who wants to buy a nice military bike. Like I said, it should turn out nice. JimRoy
 
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JimRoy

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 8, 2017
446
896
Indianapolis
#17
Is it a straight tube frame? Is it dated 1943... Could you share the frame number?
If so it would have had a later fork with separate truss rod support plate instead of the integral supports.
A detail of course only important if you want it to resemble factory issue...
Yes. It’s a straight tube and it’s dated 1943. Thanks.
 

johan willaert

Finally riding a big boys bike
Feb 5, 2013
259
121
Bruges, Belgium
www.theliberator.be
#18
Thanks for posting the number...

That's the lowest H numbered bike I have ever seen... Also the '3' used is different frome the one usually used on H stamped frames...

Anyway, good luck with the build and sale!
 
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johan willaert

Finally riding a big boys bike
Feb 5, 2013
259
121
Bruges, Belgium
www.theliberator.be
#20
I have spent the last few days looking at just about every picture of Huffman frames and their markings I have on file and based on what I've seen and compared to this frame I must admit that more and more I'm convinced this particular frame is not a correct 1943 Huffman Military frame.

From my files I would suspect a 6 digit number with any H marked frame. The font of the numbers, especially the 3 has not been used on any other Huffman frame of which I have pictures.
Also the welding is unlike any other straight tube Huffy frame from the same period.
I believe this is a civilian frame with altered or added numbers and date.

Let it be clear the above is just my opinion and I would love to hear/read what others think.
I will gladly stand corrected if someone thinks this is a genuine frame based on info or other similar frames!!!

All this being said it will still be a great WW2 Army tribute bike, but IMO it will not be a correct WW2 issue model...

As said, my 02cts... Looking forward to other opinions...
 

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