WHO MADE TEENS HAWTHORNE DELUXE?

[eddy2dice]

Hi, can anyone tell me who made the teens Wards Hawthorne Deluxe motobike please? (Not the Hawthorne flyer as it’s a different frame) And what other badged bikes were the same? I’m pretty sure I have the identical frame but the badge screws are vertical On mine and the deluxe holes are horizontal! Many thanks, Eddy

 

[cbustapeck]

That's a good question. While I wish I had a solid answer, I can say that the thread Who made "Black Beauty" badged bikes??? and Mont. Wards "De Luxe" is worth looking at. It goes into the subject in much depth.

 

[oddball]

That would be Schwinn made

 

[eddy2dice]

It does look to be very similar...although the teens Hawthorne deluxe has smaller diameter tube on the lower top bar, didnt schwinn only use same diameter tubing? Maybe I’m wrong, just going on other teens schwinn frames
Here’s the frame in question

 

[Archie Sturmer]

The picture (1919?) in the first post looks like an A&S product, and the frame in post #4 might be from both a different year and a different manufacturer, and a different model, and a different badge.

With the taller spacing of the badge fastener holes in the head tube, and along with the oval shaped stays at the bottom bracket hanger joints, I would lean towards Excelsior as the maker, and maybe the badge also.

I also see that the truss tube does not have a characteristic volcano joint with the seat tube mast; which would require a design change at some point in time.