Why does SPITFIRE models have bolt on kickstands ??????

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OZ1972

Finally riding a big boys bike
May 2, 2010
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If anyone has information on the spitfire models please let me know , i have noticed that they all usually have bolt on kickstands , thanks !!!
 

Rivnut

I live for the CABE
Nov 24, 2012
1,396
Shawnee, United States
My 55 Hornet D65 has what Schwinn then called, a "detachable kickstand" and "enameled S2 tubular rims."
 
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OZ1972

Finally riding a big boys bike
May 2, 2010
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Thanks for the help , it may have been cheaper to have the bolt on stand , i appreciate your fellows input !
 

Jeff54

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 11, 2013
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Ft Myers, Florida
It's not exactly basic or cheap route. 55-57 Deluxe Hornet got springer, chrome S2's, tank, Rocket Ray, Rack Optional 52 tooth sprocket and detachable kickstand and I think it kept that kick stand, on all Hornets until 1958.. Also, 55-57 seems to have been a unique frame and fenders as, it's like a heavy weight cross with middle weight B/C, fenders are not 3" balloon wide and not as narrow as middle weight. Which means, the rear fender bridge/bracket is a unique size. So, yeah price point must have had a thing to do with it but, something else was going on too. Maybe Wald or whoever they out sourced them from, snookered em on huge lot in 54 and so, Schwinn got stuck until could off load em all. B/C otherwise, it seems to me, U got more parts/materials and labor than welded standard does/did. I mean, B/C it started in 1955 or, moreover, pre-production planning, 1954, then; WTF was Schwinn thinking? o_O
 
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Rivnut

I live for the CABE
Nov 24, 2012
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Shawnee, United States
Don't know WTF they may have been thinking but they carried the detachable kickstand on the Hornets from the balloon model Hornet to the middleweight Hornet.
 
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Jeff54

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Sep 11, 2013
2,362
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Don't know WTF they may have been thinking but they carried the detachable kickstand on the Hornets from the balloon model Hornet to the middleweight Hornet.
Yeah, I've seen em but wasn't paying attention. I'd thought you'd meant the heavyweight. Yet here they are. Plus, other than, chain guard and sprocket, they're the same as the Spitfire. And! and, frame and fenders for S2 Balloons are the same as the 55 Deluxe Hornet. Here's a pristine 53, above excellent original: https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/53-schwinn-hornet-or-spitfire-nice-survivor.79784/

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Rivnut

I live for the CABE
Nov 24, 2012
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Low budget bike, or what Schwinn says, "Popular Priced Model". They also had painted rims and a rolled stem.
In '55, the Schwinn catalog advertised the "Hornet Deluxe" as being equipped with the springer fork, chrome s-2 rims, white sidewall Typhoon tires, a Rocket Ray headlight, a rear rack, and a tank, but alas, a detachable kickstand. the standard "Hornet" had painted rims with blackwalls, a torpedo light, and truss rods, the rear rack, and the tank, but once again, the detachable kickstand. The Spitfire was nothing but a bare bike, with a detachable kick stand.

What I did notice was that the bikes with the detachable kickstands were the only models that were not cantilevered frame models. Any significance to this?
 
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GTs58

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Sep 2, 2012
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In '55, the Schwinn catalog advertised the "Hornet Deluxe" as being equipped with the springer fork, chrome s-2 rims, white sidewall Typhoon tires, a Rocket Ray headlight, a rear rack, and a tank, but alas, a detachable kickstand. the standard "Hornet" had painted rims with blackwalls, a torpedo light, and truss rods, the rear rack, and the tank, but once again, the detachable kickstand. The Spitfire was nothing but a bare bike, with a detachable kick stand.

What I did notice was that the bikes with the detachable kickstands were the only models that were not cantilevered frame models. Any significance to this?
Maybe Schwinn's bean counter decided what frames will be involved in the Competitive market. The Flying Star frame went from a single bar to a cantilever frame and it still had the cheap stem, bolt on stand and solid color paint but had chrome rims. The evolution of Schwinn's models is pretty interesting and they were always evolving. The Tornado evolved into the Typhoon and that was the bargain basement model of the day. Then it continued on as one of Schwinn's last Middleweight models, still never having a chrome fork crown.
 

ricobike

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Apr 8, 2014
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Evanston, United States
From what I've seen, Schwinn used Atwood stands which were very good quality. I've used them from parted out low end Schwinn bikes to fix Schwinns that had their built in kickstands broken off and they actually seem to work a little better than the built-ins sometimes. Way easier to replace when broken that's for sure.
 
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