1894 Remington 41126

[kirk thomas]

Nothing ?? How about some more places to research this????????????????????????????

 

[Blue Streak]

Based on the references below I think your Remington (SN 41126) was manufactured 1895 or 1896:

1895.05.03 - The Referee and Cycle Trade Journal:

1895.08.01 - The Bearings:

1895.12.26 - The Bearings:

1896.01.02 - The Bearings:

1896.01.23 - The Referee - NY Bicycle Show:

1896.05.07 - The Referee:

1897.12.16 - The Cycle Age and Trade Review:

1898.01.06 - The Cycle Age and Trade Review:

 

[Rambler]

Nothing ?? How about some more places to research this????????????????????????????

I'm surprised that no one has come forward with an 1896 or 1897 Remington catalog yet.

Below are a couple resources that may help. Someone on the CABE is selling an 1896 Remington catalog so possible they can help with a page copy and also there is an 1896 Remington catalog on the "fat tire trading" blog.

http://thecabe.com/forum/threads/for-sale-original-1896-remington-arms-company-catalog.61769/

http://fattiretrading.blogspot.com/2011/11/1896-remington-bicycles-catalog.html

 

[Rambler]

Based on the references below I think your Remington (SN 41126) was manufactured 1895 or 1896:

1895 and earlier Remington bicycles had an entirely different style crank arm attachment using a binder bolt. The Remington owned by Kirk Thomas has the newer style cottered crank so Kirk's Remington is most likely 1896 or later.

Crank on Kirk Thomas Remington:

 

[Blue Streak]

The December 16,1897 The Cycle Age and Trade Review Remington advertisement below shows an image of a name badge with serial number 75318. Not sure what exactly this means but would conclude that Kirk's lower SN 41126 should be 1897 or earlier. My above June 1, 1898 The Cycle Age and Trade Review reference stating that around 15,000 Remingtons made in 1896 and that more than this would likely be made in 1897. Working backwards from the 75318 reference puts Kirk's SN 41126 falling in the early 1896 production numbers: 75318 - (20000 +/- for 1897) - (15000 +/- for 1896) = 40318 +/- for beginning of 1896 production). With Rambler's knowledge that Kirk's is definitely not 1895 or early, it seems to me that SN 41126 is a 1896 model. The 1896 Remington catalog should confirm all of this.

 

[kirk thomas]

Wow I hope someone has a 96 catalog. I took the pedals off today they are both right hand threads? I have never seen that before. Thanks, Kirk

 

[kirk thomas]

The 1896 chain ad for Perry is not the same. Mine is a Perry Humber anything on that name? Was it a import from England before 1896?

 

[Blue Streak]

Perry and Co. made bicycle chains beginning around 1888 through the 1960's when it became part of Renold Chain which still exists today. Here is a link to information about the company: http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Perry_and_Co

"Humber" is a specific pattern of chain. Other chain companies also offered "Humber" chains. Perry advertised a "Humber" chain in late 1892. Here is an ad from 1896 and a image of the chain from the 1897 book Modern Cycles.

 

[Rambler]

I took the pedals off today they are both right hand threads? I have never seen that before. Thanks, Kirk

Yes, I have seen right hand pedal threads on both sides on some early bicycles, before manufacturers figured out that the pedal on the left side would loosen while riding which is the reason for left hand pedal threads on the left side. I believe two right hand threaded pedals was a carryover from highwheels and hard tire safeties which had pedals that typically were both right hand thread however had only a hole through the crank arm and a nut on the back side of the crank arm to attach the pedal.

Reason pedals are opposite threaded today.
Quote from: https://physics.stackexchange.com/ "Intuitively you would think pedals would unscrew while pedaling! But in reality the clamping torque of the threads will be far, far greater than any friction in the bearings could generate. Even if the bearings were to seize, it would be very difficult to unscrew the pedal (unless it was never tight to begin with).
Now consider someone riding the bike, putting weight on the right pedal. This applies a force perpendicular to the ground, no matter where the foot is in the pedal stroke. Relative to the crank arm, this radial force rotates CCW, which - via the process of mechanical precession - creates a CW torque on the pedal spindle (thus tightening it). The rotations on the left side are all reversed, so it must use the opposite threading to prevent the pedal from coming loose."


The fact that your Remington has both right hand threaded pedals is another good reason for believing it is 1896 model year rather than later when left hand thread pedals on left side were implemented. Possibly your Remington may have even been produced in the last couple months of 1895 as the new 1896 model because it clearly does have the newer 1896 style crank and not the earlier 1895 style.

 

[Blue Streak]

Circa 1899 - The Remington Special - Serial Number 120289
Handle bars and pedals are stamped Remington.
Double front sprocket with unique chain pattern.
Owned by Florida Wheelmen member Keith Pariani.