Fall 2021 Copake auction

[biker]

I wonder if new money is going into Bitcoin or the stock market? Seems to be going up in a straight line lately. Young people they want to play video games, drink alcohol, drive fast cars and brag how much they are making in the market just by tapping their smart phone. Why would they waste their time on a hobby that takes up space, wastes your time, doesn't provide that much of a monetary return if any, requires you to get dirt under your finger nails, drive hundreds of miles for a bike or a show or a auction or a doing a ride. We are dying out. Its changing before our eyes. As with any hobby will happen.

 

[Freqman1]

My observations were not with the hobby as a whole just this venue. If you've been to a swap or show lately there is plenty of enthusiasm for all types of bicycles. I've already posted my views which run counter to the generational argument. Lifestyles and hobbies are two different things and many people will never be collectors of anything but that's ok--more for me! V/r Shawn

 

[Nostalgic Dave]

I think watching what's happening right here on theCABE is a better indicator on the pulse of the hobby than what happens at Copake. But, I'm biased.

 

[SirMike1983]

Lifestyles and hobbies are two different things and many people will never be collectors of anything but that's ok--more for me! V/r Shawn

That's how I feel about it. I have no problem with old 3-speeds being a lesser collectible because it means I can afford them and (most of) the parts.

 

[FreedomMachinist]

Has anyone ever had a bike shipped to Michigan from Copake? Shipping costs? What company was used? Thanks!

I had a bike shipped from Copake to Jackson, MI at their summer 2021 auction.
Kirkland Thomas handled it for 60$ and shipping fee was 81,65$ - I'd say thats a reasonable price for a professional shipping service and everything went smooth so far.
Although, as of yet I cannot tell if the disassembling and packaging was done well since I have not seen the bike - I still need to arrange the final shipment to Germany.
I was waiting to score a last bike at Copake last Saturday - I had an eye on the full suspension Pierce (awesome!) and was prepared to spend 2,5G and even dragged along until 3500$ - it sold for 3750
cry
Oh if i could turn, turn back the hands of time
Although the next bid increment would have been 4G - and that is a lot of money for a bicycle...and who knows who else was bidding... Jay Leno, Bill Gates, JD Rockefeller ?
And the later certainly had a good taste on classic bikes, he rode a German built Dürkopp Chainless

 

[J-wagon]

Lifestyles and hobbies are two different things

I have small collection. Nothing worth more than one comma. Biggest dilemmas I face every morning:
What bike I ride today?
What bike I fix today?

 

[bikebozo]

I had a bike shipped from Copake to Jackson, MI at their summer 2021 auction.
Kirkland Thomas handled it for 60$ and shipping fee was 81,65$ - I'd say thats a reasonable price for a professional shipping service and everything went smooth so far.
Although, as of yet I cannot tell if the disassembling and packaging was done well since I have not seen the bike - I still need to arrange the final shipment to Germany.
I was waiting to score a last bike at Copake last Saturday - I had an eye on the full suspension Pierce (awesome!) and was prepared to spend 2,5G and even dragged along until 3500$ - it sold for 3750
cry
Oh if i could turn, turn back the hands of time
Although the next bid increment would have been 4G - and that is a lot of money for a bicycle...and who knows who else was bidding... Jay Leno, Bill Gates, JD Rockefeller ?
And the later certainly had a good taste on classic bikes, he rode a German built Dürkopp Chainless

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Columbia built chainless,

 

[FreedomMachinist]

You know what, after I pasted in the photo yesterday and since in recent time I got a bit more educated in US-bicycles, I had the same thought: looks like a Columbia badge.

So: I appologize for pusblishing Fake News on The Cabe- of course he was riding a Pope product !
I was only repeating a sidenote a read on several occasions in different German publications about chainless bikes and other bicycle matters.
I was always a bit suspecious about the missing plunger breaks (all German bikes had to have two independent brakes, by law, up to this day), but took it for granted that its Dürkopp, since everybody says so

I forgot to reference the website i took the photo yesterday, but it also spreads the myth in the comment section:

John D. Rockefeller rode a bicycle – Cyclelicious

And a book about Bielefeld's Histroy also repeats the story.

At least I think I can explaint where the myth is coming from:
The Dürkopp Badge of the time is similar to Columbias, but more oval shaped and tilted writing.
For reference here is my Dürkopp 1913:

not really a close match, but similar.

 

[FreedomMachinist]

For got to say: The badge is complete oval.
and the brass sheet over the badge is a "owners badge", having the name and city of the original owner engraved on it:
"Florence Reibelt, Dabors"
Doesn't really sound German, and these badges indeed were a french custom.

The bike was ridden in Elsaß-Lothringen (Alsace-Lorraine), a piece of land which switched between German and French possesion many times, whoever won the last war. It was born right before WWI (many parts have the year stamped on them 1913/14) and after 1918 this area was French again, therefore the French badge.

Sorry if a spammed the Copake-Thread, but just wanted to mention it ...

 

[FreedomMachinist]

Three types of Badges in 1913 catalog.