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@33 Shelby

O.K. ... Glen ... we can all settle down and be patient.

Good recommendation. We will see documentation -
when we see documentation.



All the patience in this world will not halt a Tsunami ...
But a lack of patience results in half-baked fish sticks.
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Kim Jong Un
Very well put. Patric are all KING B’s Shelby built?
 
There is a Wright & Wilhelmy Co. out of Nebraska. I don't know if they were related with each other, but they sold Schwinn and other brands of bikes in the 30's. Here's the badge.

WRIGHT'S SPECIAL 01.jpg
 
Patric are all KING B’s Shelby built?

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So far, the only KING B badged bicycles I have seen --
have been of Shelby origin.


Interesting note ... the Wheelman.site has available a
list of bicycle brands listed alphabetically.


Believe these brands are the ones they became familiar
with thru research and investigation. No guesswork.


At one time they listed two different manufacturers ..
in late 1890's Chicago .. one for a King Bee bicycle ...
and one for a KING B bicycle.


..... patric
 
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Full disclosure.
I know nothing!
But!
It would seem, that the super righteous King-B headbadge tells its story very clearly.
Since Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett always used the monogram in that order, HS&B based out of Chicago, Illinois.
While the super righteous King-B badge clearly states that it was distributed by,
SBH Co. based out of Columbus, Ohio.
And, since there just happened to be a large hardware distribution company in Columbus, by the name of Smith Brothers, Hardware Company, who as fate would have it, also sold bicycles.
It stands to reason, that the SBH on the super righteous King -B headbadge is the monogram for Smith Brothers Hardware, of Columbus, and not HS&B Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett of Chicago.
Just my two cents.
But hey!
What do I know?
 
[it should not be Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co.; they were in Chicago].
Those hardware stores, must have been "cut"-throat capitalists; seems they all had an "axe" to grind.
Shapleigh - Diamond Edge;
Simmons - Keen Kutter;
Smith Bros - Cut Easy.
Smith Bros 1904-1926.jpgSmith Bros 1929-1951catalog.jpg
The Chicago-based HS&BCo. may have been eliminated (negatively excluded), but we are looking for a more positive connection to the Smith Brothers Hardware Co. (besides spelling).
 
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You are very correct @cyclingday !!

At the time (back when ?) I observed the ''S ...B'' centered
over an ''H'', having ''Co'' across the H crossbeam ... I began
to mentally sort thru possibilities.


FADE TO BLACK .....

Had never heard of Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett .., nor Smith
Brother's Hardware at the time I acquired my KING B -- a bunch
of years ago.


Then I runs across some badges .. along with other non-bicycle
hardware that were stamped or embossed, ''HS&B'' .


With a mind fully dialed-in to want closure ... my erroneous thinking
allowed for me to enjoy a faux.Light-Bulb Moment -- lasting many years.


Tried variations of sequencing the S..B over H ......... my own reasoning,
(at the time very erroneous) thru the variations of those particular letters ...
had me believing those letters were indeed representing Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett.


Had this belief for years. It is only in the past few days that I came to
believe that my assumed thoughts are wrong.


Full-Disclosure ... it was not until @33 Shelby posted the very-real
consideration that the actual SBH was a clear and reasonable reference
to Smith Brother's Hardware Co. in Columbus, Ohio.


I stand corrected.

..... patric
 
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You are very correct @cyclingday !!

At the time (back when ?) I observed the ''S ...B'' centered
over an ''H'', having ''Co'' across the H crossbeam ... I began
to mentally sort thru possibilities.


FADE TO BLACK .....

Had never heard of Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett .., nor Smith
Brother's Hardware at the time I acquired my KING B -- a bunch
of years ago.


Then I runs across some badges .. and other non-bicycle hardware
that were stamped or embossed, ''HS&B'' .


With a mind fully dialed-in to want closure ... my erroneous thinking
allowed for me to enjoy a faux.Light-Bulb Moment -- lasting many years.


Tried variations of sequencing the S..B over H ......... my own reasoning,
(at the time very erroneous) thru the variations of those particular letters ...
had me believing those letters were indeed representing Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett.


Had this belief for years. It is only in the past few days that I came to
believe that my assumed thoughts are wrong.


Full-Disclosure ... it was not until @33 Shelby posted the very-real
consideration that the actual SBH was a clear and reasonable reference
to Smith Brother's Hardware Co. in Columbus, Ohio.


I stand corrected.

..... patric
Patric, In all your research did you ever find anything about the artists/craftsmen that designed the head badges for the various companies? Thanks, Barry
 
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