Looking for pics of 1938 Ladies Elgin...

[Flat Tire]

Heres another pic..........Don

 

[Turtle]

Hi Don,

Thanks so much for the help. I think I have everything I need now. My seat tube pin-striping is a little different from yours but I think the help you have provided will get me exactly where I need to be.

I just got through laying down the first coat of color on the frame. My semester starts tomorrow so things will probably slow down some but that's OK. Slow but steady.

I will post pics soon.

Cheers,

 

[toby weidner]

1938 Ladies Elgin bike original color scheme

Hello,

I just found this beautiful Ladies Elgin bike in the back of my garage. I think I can help you with the original paint scheme. I have many pics I've taken and will be selling the bike soon any idea how much this bike is worth. After looking at Ebay I think I get some decent $$$... Any suggestions??? I can be contacted at [email protected].

It's the same exact bike as the one on the sears flyer you posted.

That frame is different than the one in the catalog illustration, I too am looking to identify a ladies Elgin so I'm noticing every detail

 

[Mercian]

Hi @toby weidner

Impressive thread ressurection (-:

If you can put up the bike's serial number (on the bottom of the BB), a photo or all of the number/letter combinations on it, then we can date the bike, which is a good first move.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[Mercian]

This is a June 1939 frame, which is similar to yours: https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/t...lumbia-is-who-can-date-it.147683/#post-991785

With your serial, I may get something closer.

Photo: @schwinn addiction b.c.

 

[toby weidner]

Hi @toby weidner

Impressive thread ressurection (-:

If you can put up the bike's serial number (on the bottom of the BB), a photo or all of the number/letter combinations on it, then we can date the bike, which is a good first move.

Best Regards,

Adrian

Thanks, here are the numbers.... It's a "G8" code, serial E90344, I can take pictures later, going by the Westfield chart it's a '40, but Sears catalogs look like it would be a '38, I've seen photos of others that suggest it could be a '39, but honestly I have yet to see another with that arrangement including that chain ring

 

[Mercian]

Hi @toby weidner

E90344/G8 is a frame that was made in August 1940, and probably built up into a bicycle in August to Sept. 1940.

The chain ring with four slots is seen on the 1940 Ladies Elgin models

Here's a couple of 1940 examples, not equipped exactly as yours, but with the same frame and chainwheel.

E67393/G6 (June 1940)

Need help dating my Elgin | Classic Balloon Tire Bicycles 1933-1965

I have what I believe to be a 1939 or 1940 Elgin girls bike. I am hoping the experts here can set me straight. I have noticed that some Elgins in these years had a solid sprocket and some a slotted one like mine. Which one is older? Also when did they have the neck shroud?

thecabe.com

E145323/ (not known, probably G10) around October 1940.

ELGIN, Latest purchase,I.D. year & model please | Classic Balloon Tire Bicycles 1933-1965

I just picked up this ladies Elgin yesterday. I found it on the local PA Craigslist for what I think is a fair price. I really like this model with the ribbed tank & the cast metal head shroud. Can someone please tell me the year of the bike & if there is a model name? Also notice that it has a...

thecabe.com

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[toby weidner]

Hi @toby weidner

E90344/G8 is a frame that was made in August 1940, and probably built up into a bicycle in August to Sept. 1940.

The chain ring with four slots is seen on the 1940 Ladies Elgin models

Here's a couple of 1940 examples, not equipped exactly as yours, but with the same frame and chainwheel.

E67393/G6 (June 1940)

Need help dating my Elgin | Classic Balloon Tire Bicycles 1933-1965

I have what I believe to be a 1939 or 1940 Elgin girls bike. I am hoping the experts here can set me straight. I have noticed that some Elgins in these years had a solid sprocket and some a slotted one like mine. Which one is older? Also when did they have the neck shroud?

thecabe.com

E145323/ (not known, probably G10) around October 1940.

ELGIN, Latest purchase,I.D. year & model please | Classic Balloon Tire Bicycles 1933-1965

I just picked up this ladies Elgin yesterday. I found it on the local PA Craigslist for what I think is a fair price. I really like this model with the ribbed tank & the cast metal head shroud. Can someone please tell me the year of the bike & if there is a model name? Also notice that it has a...

thecabe.com

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Adrian

This is what I've noticed before.... The bracing is different in the down tubes on those '40 models, and on most claimed '40 models the fender is on top of the fork, that's what I've been seeing consistently, now I understand the fender could be incorrect but the bracing difference can't be argued and suggests '38 or '39, I'm still confused

 

[Mercian]

Hi @toby weidner

Thanks for getting back to me.

The serial and frame production numbers are fixed points.

The frame is always dated when made, and the serial number applied when the bicycle is complete.

G8 says the frame was made in August 1940. Sometimes a frame will sit on the shelf for many months before being built up, because it's a less common, more expensive or less popular model. So then you see a serial number from months or even years later being applied. But a serial number cannot be from a period before the frame was made. So it cannot be built in 1938 or 1939.

In this case the serial number is also at about August to September 1940 point (serial numbers are a bit more subjective).

Sometimes you do see earlier styles of frames being produced to make small model variations for people reselling under another badge, or as a budget model. So it could be this is the reason you are seeing a difference.

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[toby weidner]

Hi @toby weidner

Thanks for getting back to me.

The serial and frame production numbers are fixed points.

The frame is always dated when made, and the serial number applied when the bicycle is complete.

G8 says the frame was made in August 1940. Sometimes a frame will sit on the shelf for many months before being built up, because it's a less common, more expensive or less popular model. So then you see a serial number from months or even years later being applied. But a serial number cannot be from a period before the frame was made. So it cannot be built in 1938 or 1939.

In this case the serial number is also at about August to September 1940 point (serial numbers are a bit more subjective).

Sometimes you do see earlier styles of frames being produced to make small model variations for people reselling under another badge, or as a budget model. So it could be this is the reason you are seeing a difference.

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Adrian

Ok, I gotcha, makes sense, and I thank you