1964 Flamboyant Lime Varsity

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Eric Amlie

Wore out three sets of tires already!
I'm still wondering about that stem.
What would it have come on originally?
Schwinn said that the 27" wheel bikes did not get the smaller diameter stem.
Did other brands do the same as Schwinn, increasing the thickness of the steerer tube, necessitating a smaller diameter stem?
 

GTs58

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
I'm still wondering about that stem.
What would it have come on originally?
Schwinn said that the 27" wheel bikes did not get the smaller diameter stem.
Did other brands do the same as Schwinn, increasing the thickness of the steerer tube, necessitating a smaller diameter stem?

So far that stem has been found on two 1969 Collegiates and those are 26" models that most likely had the steerer tube change.
 

60sstuff

Finally riding a big boys bike
60sstuff, what a beautiful bike and a great grab. Congrats!! Also really nice work with the detailed pictures. I recently bought a 66 Varsity In rougher shape and it has a stem branded Sprint on the side of the stem. I will have to post a closeup of it when I get a pic. It is alloy and currently, unfortunately, stuck, and I am working to free it. Love that flamboyant lime! Had a 64 girls I sold to a collector but have never owned a boys in that color.
Hi bikerbluz,

Thank you for the compliments!
I like details, so clear close-up photos are very important. Glad you like it.

Sometimes when I have encountered a stuck stem I wack the top of the bolt with a 2x4 that may loosen that stuck wedge.

Good luck, Chris.
 

60sstuff

Finally riding a big boys bike
Vintage cartoon from the Schwinn Reporter.
One of the famous Glenn “Bernhardt” cartoons.

Also, some interesting information from the September 1965 SR on changes made for performance and safety.

1) Chain guide arm.
2) Cable slippage on Sprint front derailleur that involves the “cable anchor bolt”.
It seems these two changes may have happened in very late ‘64 for the upcoming ‘65 model.

My F4 Varsity has the old versions (guide arm and riveted stud).
Also my records show an H4 Varsity still has these two older components.

From this SR article it says there is a strong possibility that the cable could be sheared off from the new nut/bolt fastening system.
The factory has been wrapping the cable around the bolt instead as shown on the M4 Coppertone and KB Violet.

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kostnerave

Finally riding a big boys bike
Vintage cartoon from the Schwinn Reporter.
One of the famous Glenn “Bernhardt” cartoons.

Also, some interesting information from the September 1965 SR on changes made for performance and safety.

1) Chain guide arm.
2) Cable slippage on Sprint front derailleur that involves the “cable anchor bolt”.
It seems these two changes may have happened in very late ‘64 for the upcoming ‘65 model.

My F4 Varsity has the old versions (guide arm and riveted stud).
Also my records show an H4 Varsity still has these two older components.

From this SR article it says there is a strong possibility that the cable could be sheared off from the new nut/bolt fastening system.
The factory has been wrapping the cable around the bolt instead as shown on the M4 Coppertone and KB Violet.

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Thank you for the great information. I know this is off subject, but the Schwinn Reporter pictured shows an ad with my '65 Coppertone Collegiate!

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60sstuff

Finally riding a big boys bike
1964 Varsity “Due Diligence” on the Sprocket, Rear.
It pays to do the ^^^^ before you take someone’s advice to look for the “correct” Sprint branded Atom with splines.
There are MANY members on this fantastic CABE site with great knowledge, but not one person has seen every ‘64 Varsity build.

The January 1964 and January 1965 Schwinn parts catalogs mention two different part numbers on the “Sprocket, Rear” for the Varsity.
1964 - #3811
1965 - #3829 (will replace cog #3811). This New type cog - with the internal spline is shown in the ‘65 catalog as a Sprint Splined rear sprocket.
Look at all the dates on the Schwinn catalogs, plus the Schwinn reporter and it’s understandable the Atom two notch 14-28 sprocket would show up on a 1964 Varsity.
Personally I would like to find more information on these two different cog part numbers, plus the early 60’s bikes they were used on.
But for now I’m certain the 14-28 Atom on my F4 Lime Varsity is correct.

Further investigation from 3 years ago on this site shows a 1964 Conti with the same cog as mine. Search member (BillRays) and have a look as someone was in shock this Atom was on this bike ….. “if you haven’t noticed”.

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kostnerave

Finally riding a big boys bike
1964 Varsity “Due Diligence” on the Sprocket, Rear.
It pays to do the ^^^^ before you take someone’s advice to look for the “correct” Sprint branded Atom with splines.
There are MANY members on this fantastic CABE site with great knowledge, but not one person has seen every ‘64 Varsity build.

The January 1964 and January 1965 Schwinn parts catalogs mention two different part numbers on the “Sprocket, Rear” for the Varsity.
1964 - #3811
1965 - #3829 (will replace cog #3811). This New type cog - with the internal spline is shown in the ‘65 catalog as a Sprint Splined rear sprocket.
Look at all the dates on the Schwinn catalogs, plus the Schwinn reporter and it’s understandable the Atom two notch 14-28 sprocket would show up on a 1964 Varsity.
Personally I would like to find more information on these two different cog part numbers, plus the early 60’s bikes they were used on.
But for now I’m certain the 14-28 Atom on my F4 Lime Varsity is correct.

Further investigation from 3 years ago on this site shows a 1964 Conti with the same cog as mine. Search member (BillRays) and have a look as someone was in shock this Atom was on this bike ….. “if you haven’t noticed”.

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My November, 1964 Sky Blue Varsity has the splined, Sprint freewheel that GTs58 mentioned. in his post.

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60sstuff

Finally riding a big boys bike
As it should have from the 1965 Schwinn parts catalog information and consumer catalog offerings.
After all, your Nov. 13, 1964 photos show it‘s being fitted with several 1965 components for the upcoming year.

My bike is a mid ‘64 build with a ‘63 crank and 1964 components throughout except the stem.
 
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