Cleveland Welding S/N Project...See Page 58 Post 576 for chart

[1959firearrow]

That is pretty sweet looking, Wish the 38 hawthorne I have was that complete. Love the long spring saddle.

 

[Jeff1961]

CWC Hiawatha ID help

First post here guys. Great job with all the info compiled. On to the bike.

It's an obvious repaint, originally red, bars and stem replaced plus a wheel rebuild but everything else "seems" original. # G81012 Cw
From what I've compiled it's a post war frame but that's about it. If in fact I can date it I'd love to find some original catalog scans from that period. One more edit. The fender holes on the rear drop outs are in fact holes and not notches.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff

https://picasaweb.google.com/jsalba...authkey=Gv1sRgCOfDgP714Ima6AE&feat=directlink

 

[Jax]

Any advice for pic posting?Threads?

 

[bicyclebones]

Roadmaster Supreme

Can you help me identify a Roadmaster Supreme I just got? Dan 620.795.2277 [email protected]

 

[ratina]

First post here guys. Great job with all the info compiled. On to the bike.

It's an obvious repaint, originally red, bars and stem replaced plus a wheel rebuild but everything else "seems" original. # G81012 Cw
From what I've compiled it's a post war frame but that's about it. If in fact I can date it I'd love to find some original catalog scans from that period. One more edit. The fender holes on the rear drop outs are in fact holes and not notches.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff

https://picasaweb.google.com/jsalba...authkey=Gv1sRgCOfDgP714Ima6AE&feat=directlink

The serial number makes it late 48, early 49 but I think the fork is a few years newer. What are the numbers on the headbadge?

 

[Jeff1961]

No numbers on the head badge Ratina. The fork looks to be CWC built though and has the original red on the steer tube. At this point I'm looking for images of like year models so I can come up with paint schemes ect. Not much out there on these Hiawatha's.
Thanks again,
Jeff

 

[m4travel]

Lord, I can't find any rhyme or reason in the S/N system they used back then. The letter designation just seems to be sort of random. Maybe there is more to the numbers that designate date(?) Ya think that it is a cipher, to throw off the enemy back in WWII? Any code-breakers out there wanna give it a shot?

 

[rickpaulos]

AMF Roadmaster Cleveland Welding frame/fork

I've owned this frame for many years. Just found this thread via google despite being a cabe member for many years too. I just took a bunch of photos for someone at ratrods and put them on photobucket.
http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r198/rickpaulos/AMF Roadmaster Cleveland Welding/

Notes:
Serial Number A78550
forward dropouts, no screws.
expanding seat post, frame has no seat post clamp or slot to accommodate one.
original paint and decals.
frame, fork, headset, seat post is all I have.
Nice font on the serial number.

After reading more of this thread more closely, I realize there are more numbers or letters on the bb shell. I'll need to clean the shell a bit more to be able to read them.

I'm guessing 1950 to 1953 period. AMF bought Roadmaster from CWC in 1950, transferred production from Ohio to Arkansas in 1953. I would think they would not put the Cleveland decal on in Little Rock. Also the horizontal dropouts are typically newer than the rear ward facing type with or without screws.

rick

 

[RMS37]

It looks like the serial number suffix begins with “55” which means the frame is from 1955. That matches the pattern of the frame with the forward dropouts, the flat chainstays, and the smaller diameter secondary top tube. AMF purchased Cleveland Welding in 1951 and didn’t move production to Little Rock Arkansas until 1956.

 

[rickpaulos]

Thanks Phil. Now on to what may be an obvious question. Are there any on line catalog scans or adverts? Rick