could this be a T.O.C bike ?

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Kenny Middendorf

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 7, 2017
79
55
2003 South 4th Street, Fayetteville, IL, United States
this was posted in the 1933 n up section but i think it may be older, cant seem to identify it , any guesses here ! thanks to all !! I'm positive the fenders don't belong and the wheels are wrong, the last pic is it without fenders if you can see it all the way in the back.

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skiptooth

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 1, 2017
544
72
Tehachapi CA
yes, its 1890's I have a tandem that's probably 1897 but this one looks earlier than that...these have an interesting history w/ the cost of $150.00 new !! the seats are not correct either. ive never seen that style of the steer from rear set up very unusual Richard...:cool:
 

bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
22,881
Chicago area west
TOC era, saddles, fenders, pedals, chain, wheels later tho. man, lots of repairs on the old gal.
 
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Kenny Middendorf

Look Ma, No Hands!
Nov 7, 2017
79
55
2003 South 4th Street, Fayetteville, IL, United States
you are shure are rite lots of stuff wrong about it , but it screams cool when ya see it ride by ,yes we rode it already . love to see one original !!!! Thank you everyone .
 
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Greeced lightning

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 26, 2018
102
61
Rhodes, Greece
It still does scream cool under all that latex layering. You have all the hard parts. There is probably some trace of original color under it all. Steer from the rear, I agree, is really unusual , good luck & have fun w/ it.
 

Craig Allen

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 23, 2016
167
65
Millville NJ
Looks more teens than '90's. Late 1890's tandems just had that special look of refinement about them, whereas this one has a bulky look to it. It still is a fun project to work on.
 
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fat tire trader

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 29, 2010
3,177
San Quentin, California
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I agree, by shortly after the turn of the century, the clip style headset was no longer or rarely used on bikes built in America. In addition, Very few companies continued to make courting tandems. The only post TOC courting tandem that I can think of is Colson, I don't remember ever seeing a tandem with this drag link coming out of the seat tube.
 
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Jesse McCauley

McCauley Cycle Works
Mar 5, 2013
2,108
Richmond, Virginia
I’m always learning and Craig has seen quite a few more bicycles than I have but while this machine does look rather “clunky” I think it may be 1890’s none the less. I would be interested in seeing a Teens tandem built this way as most I’ve seen end up with the man up front after around 1910 outside of the Colson exception from the 30’s -



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Brian R.

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 16, 2015
435
Toronto, Canada
Was there a Yellow Fellow courting tandem built in the teens? I know a collector who has one - very cool with the chain between frame stays - but he thinks it was built in the teens. He thinks Stearns switched from yellow to brown rather than it being a repaint. It seemed earlier to me.

My vote on the one in this thread is 1890s.
Nice bike.
 
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