Identifying uniquie bike

[Iridis Nocturnus]

@Oilit supplied the info you needed for a search. AMF

1964 Ad

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1960’s AMF Roadmaster Amflite Cobra – Dave's Vintage Bicycles

www.nostalgic.net

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And I replied to that post both thanking them, and explaining that I cannot find a single example of one of those with the same headbadge, seatpost tube decal, or exact frame... And now you've made me waste my time saying that again.

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

And now you've made me waste my time saying that again.

No one wants to waste your time, more so their own for that matter. It seems to be a latye '60s early '70s damaged AMF middle weight, not really desirable. Good luck on your search

 

[New Mexico Brant]

And I replied to that post both thanking them, and explaining that I cannot find a single example of one of those with the same headbadge, seatpost tube decal, or exact frame... And now you've made me waste my time saying that again.

Everyone who has responded about this bike has wasted their time as it is a worthless scrapheap bike. I have wasted my time now by replying and reading the thread. The others are just trying to help and have pointed you in the right direction but that doesn't seem to be enough for you.

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

And I replied to that post both thanking them, and explaining that I cannot find a single example of one of those with the same headbadge, seatpost tube decal, or exact frame... And now you've made me waste my time saying that again.

I believe @Bike from the Dead has done a great deal of searching for information on these bikes and a bunch of posts. He too is a busy guy but perhaps he will have time to help out. Also much better pics required.

 

[piercer_99]

That is useful information! I can't find any pictures of a Rollfast, or even a Rollfast headbadge on eBay that matches, however.

Any idea what era they were using this headbadge?

I don't know, perhaps if you had a clear photo of the bike it would be very helpful.

With that in mind, look at the seat post tube, the sticker on it and the one on this bicycle in the image I paste here.

Same sticker, 1970's. On that note, same garbage bicycle built for the mass market department store sales, trying to compete with Sears.

I would wager that you could search for years and never find another of the same frame style in your image, as the bicycle was fabricated from the lowest tensile strength steel available at the cheapest labor cost, to make the most money for the parent company, and to be replaced within a year as the frame would bend the first time a kid rode it off of a curb, similar to the one in your photo.

Or maybe this Rollfast, with the same headbadge decal as the one you shared.

 

[Iridis Nocturnus]

I don't know, perhaps if you had a clear photo of the bike it would be very helpful.

With that in mind, look at the seat post tube, the sticker on it and the one on this bicycle in the image I paste here.

Same sticker, 1970's. On that note, same garbage bicycle built for the mass market department store sales, trying to compete with Sears.

I would wager that you could search for years and never find another of the same frame style in your image, as the bicycle was fabricated from the lowest tensile strength steel available at the cheapest labor cost, to make the most money for the parent company, and to be replaced within a year as the frame would bend the first time a kid rode it off of a curb, similar to the one in your photo.

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Or maybe this Rollfast, with the same headbadge decal as the one you shared.

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You are spot on. That seat post tube sticker and headbadge match that blue Rollfast exactly! At least there's no doubt it was sold as a Rollfast (not an AMFlite) so I know what to look for.

Thanks!

 

[Iridis Nocturnus]

Everyone who has responded about this bike has wasted their time as it is a worthless scrapheap bike. I have wasted my time now by replying and reading the thread. The others are just trying to help and have pointed you in the right direction but that doesn't seem to be enough for you.

It's not enough because A.) It's wrong, and B.) Like you you're doubling down on being wrong. It is NOT an AMF, so telling me (paraphrasing) "someone already told you it's an AMF" is not only wrong, it's a dickish waste of time.

P.S. the first reply telling me it looks like an AMFlite was very much appreciated, and not remotely dickish or a waste of time, even though the bike ended up beinga Rollfast/Snyder. It was useful information.

 

[Archie Sturmer]

It is NOT an AMF, the bike ended up being a Rollfast/Snyder.

Who said that it was a Snyder; I am not so sure myself.
Just thinking about the Rollfast and AMF connection in the later 1970’s, in the post Mossberg bankruptcy era.

Like pictures, sometimes history can also be blurry.

 

[Oilit]

Who said that it was a Snyder; I am not so sure myself.
Just thinking about the Rollfast and AMF connection in the later 1970’s, in the post Mossberg bankruptcy era.

Like pictures, sometimes history can also be blurry.

You may be onto something. The lines are similar to an Amflite, but if it's a Rollfast then it can't be an Amflite as far as I know. But if there was some kind of collaboration between Rollfast and AMF later on, that might explain things. Better pictures would definitely help

 

[Bike from the Dead]

Sorry I'm late guys. Between house-sitting, pet-sitting, and trying to wrap up my current Rat Rod Bikes Build Off entry, I haven't been browsing the forums quite as frequently aside from figuring out stuff for my current bike.

Ok, like the others said, I'm pretty sure the bike in question was sold as a Rollfast. Did Snyder build it? That I don't know. I'm sadly not an expert on bicycle manufacturers. However, I know the bike is NOT an AMF AMFLITE bike, as I own one and recognize the frame shape. The bike in question is similar to an AMFLITE, but there's one key difference between this bike and an AMF: on an AMFLITE, the down tube is straight, while the down tube on this bike is curved. And while the frame on this bike does look bent, the curved down tube is not curved because it's bent. The twin top tubes on the AMFLITE are also not quite as curved as the ones on this Rollfast. What you're looking at is basically the 26" version of my 1969/1970 Montgomery Ward Hawthorne muscle bike. The frame shape is basically the same, except mine's a little more squat, because it's a 20", not a 26".

Now unfortunately, I could not find another example of a 26" Rollfast with the same frame style, at least on Google. I did see a 20" Rollfast that's identical to the Hawthorne pictured above, but that's it. When I searched for a Hawthorne, however, I found photos of both a men's and women's bike that, while sold as a Hawthorne, are both the same bike as that blue Rollfast. They even have listings on ebay!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394051956944?campid=5335809022

https://www.ebay.com/itm/263796278467?campid=5335809022

So that's the sort of bike you're looking at. I wish I could help you with figuring out the manufacturer, but my best guess would be Snyder, as they built bikes for Montgomery Ward and Rollfast back in the 1940s and 1950s. Hope this helps!