'like new' schwinn cruiser 6 hungarian twins - how do i find a value on them?

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hungariantwins

On Training Wheels
Sep 10, 2018
5
70
michigan
hi to everyone on this site

i am impressed by your knowledge of schwinns, your passion, and your willingness to help others. ty in advance for any info on my questions!

my wife's two sons inherited schwinns from their paternal grandparents, who recently passed away. i am retired, and have time to do some research to see if i can get the boys some rent money, as they start out on their own in life. no one in the family seems to know much about them, except that my wife remembers that the grandparents had these 'twins' for quite awhile before her sons were born - guessing that they were at least 40 years old. both of the schwinns, after minor wipe downs, would probably be classified close to 'like new' condition - in really great shape in my inexperienced eyes

i was scratching my head trying to find any details as to how old they are, as all of the pictures i saw on the internet did not have a match for the 'branding' that appeared on the chain guards - these bikes say 'cruiser 6', not 'cruiser six', or 'scwinn cruiser 6'

thanks to people on this site, i think i have actually found the origin and years of the twins. they were made in hungary. how do i know this? there is a label on the shaft saying 'made in hungary' - haha.

someone here posted the schwinn 1981 manufacturers code of production dates - for the life of me, i cannot find that forum post today :(
but i think i recall the code

the ladies bike (purple) starts with HD, and the mens bike (black) starts with HM, so it appears that they were both produced in july - the ladies bike in 1968, the mens in 1977
i think i have that correctly?

anyways, i now cannot find anything in regards to the values of these
bicycle blue book does not seem to be of any help

can someone please give me a ballpark value, so that i can begin to figure out what to sell them for?
i would like to see them in the hands of a schwinn collector who would appreciate their age and condition
they are in michigan, fyi

ty in advance for your advice!
don
 

Jay81

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Apr 26, 2015
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Welcome to the CABE. The Cruiser 6 bikes were made pretty recently. I do not know the exact years they were produced, but we're talking late 1990s at the earliest, or sometime in the 2000s.
The reproduction Schwinn Phantoms came out in 1995, and these came along sometime after that.
They are not considered collectable, and you aren't going to find the serial number on any chart. Post up some pics and get some opinions on value, but please don't get your hopes up.
 

Oilit

I live for the CABE
Dec 30, 2015
1,315
Concord NC
The original Schwinn Company went bankrupt in 1992, if memory serves. They bought a Hungarian plant sometime in the mid to late '80's, part of a plan to diversify suppliers and expand into Europe, but the plant was pretty run down and needed a lot of investment. Nontheless, Schwinn did import some bikes from Hungary in the early '90's before they hit the wall. My understanding is that the Scott Sports Group, which bought Schwinn after the bankruptcy, upgraded the Cruiser 5 to produce the Cruiser 6, but from what I've read they never imported bikes from Hungary. But anything's possible. Like @WetDogGraphix and @Jay81 said, pictures will help.
 

GTs58

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Sep 2, 2012
12,954
Central Arizona
I believe the "Cruiser" with 6 gears came out in 1991, Cruiser Supreme, and it was a diamond frame and the coaster model Cruiser was a cantilever frame. I've never seen anything other than a few coaster models and the Heavy Duti's that were made in Hungary. The actual build dates on your bikes should be stamped in the head badge. Four numbers for the Julian date.

Do they look like the lower images in this 1992 catalog scan?

1992_cc_Cruisers.jpg


The Cruiser 6 came out in the 1993 model year and Schwinn was purchased by the Scott Sports Group sometime in 1993. Here's the 1993 Cruiser 6 and I'd be interested to see if these were ever made in Hungary. I've only seen the geared Cruisers that were made in Taiwan.

1993_Cnsmr_29.jpg
 

hungariantwins

On Training Wheels
Sep 10, 2018
5
70
michigan
ty all for your help

i see a number of comments about cruiser 6's being produced in the 90's.
that will not be the case here, as my wife knows for sure that the grandparents had these prior to her kids being born in the late 80's

the pics posted here show 'cruiser six', just like every pic of the cruiser 6's i have found
these schwinns say 'cruiser 6', the word six not being spelled out

i wish i could find a post on here where the person posted a 1981 official schwinn publication showing how production dates can be decoded
based upon that post, it appears these were made in 1968 and 1977, from their serial numbers

so i still do not know what they are, when they were made, or what their value might be

here are some pics, which might help
1 - frame, 'cruiser 6', not 'cruiser six'
2 - serial number, starting with HD
3 - made in hungary sticker

hope this helps?

don
cruiser 6 frame.jpg


cruiser 6 serial #.jpg


cruiser 6 hungary.jpg
 

Jay81

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Apr 26, 2015
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Roseville MI
Again, they are not as old as you think they are. If one of them were made in 1968, the serial would be on the left rear dropout.
The one you think is from 1977 would have the number stamped on the head tube.
They would have both been made in Chicago if they were built in those years.
You will absolutely not find them on a Chicago built Schwinn serial number chart, which is what you've been looking at.
Could possibly be from sometime in the 80s but they are absolutely 100% not any older. I still think they are 90s or newer.
 
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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
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I agree with Jay81. These are from the 90s if not 2000s. Not sure of the value but I'd be surprised if the pair brought more than $450 or so. V/r Shawn
 

Jay81

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Apr 26, 2015
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Value wise - I see you are from Michigan as well. I sell used bikes on CL in the metro Detroit area and would expect to get in the neighborhood of $150 - $200 for the men's and $125 - $150 for the ladies.
There is a fairly good used bike market here, although it's not as good this year as it's been in the last several years.
This is assuming they are in working order and ready to be ridden. Gears and brakes all working and adjusted properly and tires that are not worn out or dry rotted.
 
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Oilit

I live for the CABE
Dec 30, 2015
1,315
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I agree about the date, early '90's, either just before or just after Chicago went bankrupt. As @GTs58 said, there should be a four digit number stamped in the headbadge, the first three numbers will be between 001 and 365 for the day of the year, and the fourth digit will be the last digit of the year it was made, "0" for 1990, "1" for 1991, etc. But you've got a couple of rare bikes, or at least the first Hungarian Cruiser 6's I've ever seen. That might be worth something if you can find the right buyer, but the Cruiser 6's aren't big collector's items in general, most were built in Taiwan, so it might or might not.
Maybe your wife''s parents traded in the ones she remembers on these?
 
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GTs58

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Sep 2, 2012
12,954
Central Arizona
1993 models. The head badge stamping should verify. Those simply were not produced anytime earlier.
 
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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
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Have a friend and her dad (in his 80s) swore up and down that the '69 Huffy Camaro he had was a bike he bought in the '40s. Just say'n... V/r Shawn
 

Rusty Klunker

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 2, 2016
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Have to agree with the others here. Just looking at the hardware on them. You didn't see that fork design till the very late 80's, allen bolt stem later then that. I don't remember many six speed bikes back then as I was chasing other things but I remember 12 speeds in the early 80's. So you probably wont find 6 speed cogs before then.
 

hungariantwins

On Training Wheels
Sep 10, 2018
5
70
michigan
hi all

once again, i admire the passion that you all have, and the incredible knowledge and history
and very much appreciate all of the info

i do not really know anything about these, other than what i can find on them (made in hungary, serial numbers...and the pics) plus my wife's memory that the grandparents had these well before her kids were born - 1989. she is incredibly smart with a sharp memory, so i have to believe her that these were in the 80s or prior

i apologize for being totally naive, but i do not know what a head badge stamp, head badge or head tube are - haha
i think you are talking about (again, pardon my being naive) the schwinn logo on the bar that goes towards the ground below the handlebars?
if so i see no numbers there

all that being said, special thanks to jay81 and freqman1 for giving me a ballpark value, as my main motivation here is to get some cash for the kids by selling them to someone who will appreciate them and take care of them. where and when they were made is something we would find very very interesting, but if these are bought by an appreciative person without us knowing those details, it would not be a disappointment

jay81 - the bikes appear to be in great condition. the grandsons have been into bicycling all of their lives, still are, have about 3 different types each with rooftop bike carriers always on top of their cars, and seem to enjoy working on them to keep them in tip top shape. bikes were probably something they had in common with their grandparents, so they probably helped them keep these in great shape.

should i just post them for sale in detroit clist? $300 for the pair?

again, ty all for your help
life is about helping each other, and i am humbled by you all taking the time to help a stranger

don
 
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anders1

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I’m still wondering where the Hungarian twins are?!!! Wait a minute,,,, are you guys talking about bikes???
 
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Jay81

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Apr 26, 2015
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i apologize for being totally naive, but i do not know what a head badge stamp, head badge or head tube are - haha
i think you are talking about (again, pardon my being naive) the schwinn logo on the bar that goes towards the ground below the handlebars?
if so i see no numbers there
Head tube - vertical tube at the front of the frame, between the handlebars and fork.
Head badge - Badge with manufacturers name affixed to the head tube with screws or rivits. Look at the front of the bike, can't miss it.
head badge stamp - MFG date code stamped into the head badge

should i just post them for sale in detroit clist? $300 for the pair?
Yes.

i do not really know anything about these, other than what i can find on them (made in hungary, serial numbers...and the pics) plus my wife's memory that the grandparents had these well before her kids were born - 1989. she is incredibly smart with a sharp memory, so i have to believe her that these were in the 80s or prior
We are happy to help, but have told you repeatedly this is not correct. Please stop insulting us by telling us we're wrong.
 

Oilit

I live for the CABE
Dec 30, 2015
1,315
Concord NC
Head tube - vertical tube at the front of the frame, between the handlebars and fork.
Head badge - Badge with manufacturers name affixed to the head tube with screws or rivits. Look at the front of the bike, can't miss it.
head badge stamp - MFG date code stamped into the head badge



Yes.



We are happy to help, but have told you repeatedly this is not correct. Please stop insulting us by telling us we're wrong.
He may find it easier to tell us that we're wrong. After all, he doesn't have to live with us.
 
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