Schwinn stingray kickstand issue

[Rusty Klunker]

Are these tools still available?

There are two different kinds. Pedro's, park tool and Schwinn share a similar design. They show up all the time Ebay and local sales. I think you can still find Pedro's new.

The other type is a leaver with two rollers. I've only seen this one with the Schwinn name. This is on ebay often listed by a cabe member

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

You need to install a Schwinn Kickstand Repair Kit. It consists of a triangle shaped washer/nut, and a 1/4 by 20 pan head screw. This was a common Schwinn problem on bicycles that received kickstand abuse, like on SR, Paperboy bikes, and Tandems. You will be able to find a photo of this part, and with minimal fabrication skills you could make the nut plate.

Hopefully some of the more digital CABE guys will post the Schwinn Kickstand Parts Page (57000 #) to help you with a picture.

John

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

I spend my day working with tools, I preform a lot of magic with them. I prefer the correct tool if at all possible. I did not have luck with the roller type.

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

I spend my day working with tools, I preform a lot of magic with them. I prefer the correct tool if at all possible. I did not have luck with the roller type.

The original Schwinn roller style removal tool works "just fine". It does require some experience and finesse to use it. It's always easier to remove and install a Schwinn kickstand "with the crank installed" into the bicycle. The crank arm gives you a handle to grab. When using the roller style tool, put the tool onto the sprag, reach across from the tool to the crank arm with one hand. Take a hammer and tap the tool adjacent to the sprag, this will jar the kickstand retainer ring loose from the sprag and allow it to easily compress the spring. You're really not fighting the spring pressure, but the friction of the retainer ring cocked on the sprag. As soon as you tap the tool and the ring releases, you can hold the tool compressed with just two fingers to the crank arm.

I'm sure your already aware, but for others that might be new to this, make certain the retaining pin is re-installed in the correct direction. THE RAISED END GOES INTO THE KICKSTAND. It hooks into the housing with the spring pressure so it will not just fall out.

The old original tool removed and installed millions of Schwinn built in stands before Hazel Park Schwinn invented the newer Park Tool version. The original Schwinn made tool cost Schwinn Dealers .25 cents through the Sales Promotion Department. Jay Townley, a former Hazel Park Schwinn employee during his high school days ran the Schwinn Sales Promotion Department and was the Schwinn employee that was behind all of the great tools made available to Schwinn Dealers from Snap-On and Park Tool.

John

 

[Wolfmac]

I spend my day working with tools, I preform a lot of magic with them. I prefer the correct tool if at all possible. I did not have luck with the roller type.

Agreed. The roller type I have is a B. Bone's copy. It leaves much to be desired since it’s easy to damage paint with it.

 

[Wolfmac]

It sounds like the stingray sprag retaining mechanism is different from the early version and that the tool was designed for working on those. My experience only been with early post war bikes. The tool has never worked well for me. Is this the case? Perhaps I’m just using it incorrectly.

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

It sounds like the stingray sprag retaining mechanism is different from the early version and that the tool was designed for working on those. My experience only been with early post war bikes. The tool has never worked well for me. Is this the case? Perhaps I’m just using it incorrectly.

Some of the sprag parts changed slightly over the 75 years they were used. You have to be careful when interchanging the different year parts (cams/sprags), and the angle of the housing is different due to balloon/middleweight and the lightweight versions. The original tool works on all of the sprags. Let me fully agree that the Park Version works better (easier, less cumbersome) than the Original Schwinn tool, BUT the original tool works just fine.

John

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

T the original tool works just fine.

Yes they do, I admit it was a more difficult kickstand and I got a bit heavy handed. I'm guessing the true originals you speak of are a bit more stout then the current rendition.

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

Yes they do, I admit it was a more difficult kickstand and I got a bit heavy handed. I'm guessing the true originals you speak of are a bit more stout then the current rendition.

I have no experience with the Bicycle Bones version. The Original Tool was what I would call a tool for occasional use, it's not an "everyday shop use" tool like the Park Tool.

The problem with the Original Tool is that the compression tangs do wear and on an old tool they do not fully depress the retaining ring. The "very old" tool I have has been modified by filing down the tools metal next to the lower roller. This makes the tangs stand taller and allows the tool to compress a greater degree distance before the tool contacts the end of the frame housing.

The original tool was made from two formed pieces just over .100" thick.

John

 

[Gordon]

You need to install a Schwinn Kickstand Repair Kit. It consists of a triangle shaped washer/nut, and a 1/4 by 20 pan head screw. This was a common Schwinn problem on bicycles that received kickstand abuse, like on SR, Paperboy bikes, and Tandems. You will be able to find a photo of this part, and with minimal fabrication skills you could make the nut plate.

Hopefully some of the more digital CABE guys will post the Schwinn Kickstand Parts Page (57000 #) to help you with a picture.

John

Here is the kit John referred to: