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Well, one things for sure.
These guys would’ve done much better financially, if they had taken up Baseball, Football or Basketball.
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Pretty much Chump Change, compared to the big league ball teams.
I think the Dodgers, Shohei Ohtani makes about that much each Inning!
 
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Unfortunately, I stopped following the race after the 6th stage. It got boring for me. Cavendish taking that sprint in my opinion was illegal (as many are) in the manner it was done and with 5th and 6th stages at such a relaxed pace it did nothing to separate the "men" from the the "boys" creating just too much of mess at stages' end. I know it's in a team and rider's strategy, but stage racing has pretty much gone by the wayside for me as cycling entertainment. Great win for Pogacar, but it just did not excite me as I hoped it would. Looking forward to Olympics and Worlds though.
 
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Unfortunately, I stopped following the race after the 6th stage. It got boring for me. Cavendish taking that sprint in my opinion was illegal (as many are) in the manner it was done and with 5th and 6th stages at such a relaxed pace it did nothing to separate the "men" from the the "boys" creating just too much of mess at stages' end. I know it's in a team and rider's strategy, but stage racing has pretty much gone by the wayside for me as cycling entertainment. Great win for Pogacar, but it just did not excite me as I hoped it would. Looking forward to Olympics and Worlds though.

It's just the way that we look at it.

I thought the two races TdF and Giro were epic. Thanks to Marty for his untiring race coverage.

I see the Olympic Road Race as a "one stage", "one day race". The same professional athletes are masquerading behind each of their countries national team jersey's for the day.

Hopefully you will find a rider to get excited about with Pogacar passing on the Olympics'

My only grip is with the NBC TV coverage. As a non-digital guy, this is the very first year in a very long time that I failed to watch even one TdF stage live. I only saw the taped re-cap show of stage 20. I miss Leggit, Bobke, and Christian's coverage, but IMO, NBC can take their Peacock and stuff it with feathers.

John
 
@Schwinn Sales West it's not that I do not like stage racing, but it has become a lot less exciting. Too much waiting around to get the job done; teams and riders do not push themselves to their limits for an entire race. Too much picking and choosing. As a cyclist, a runner, and a wrestler I always went all out; win or lose, but there was no free ride with me. You either hung in to beat me or not. I did not like to be able to stand after an effort; but I also understood what you needed to do if required to do it day after day and keeping enough in the tank to perform adequately. When I saw stage 5 and 6 with that many fighting for a stage win it showed that the pace was never pushed and I could have just tuned in for the final minute and just watch a free-for-all with it just being a chance of who avoids an accident rather than who is actually the best rider. Cavendish's win meant nothing to me, not impressive in and of itself. If the pace had really been pushed would he have even been near enough to the lead to be able to push, shove, and not stay his line like so many others? I think not. And yes, I have seen it happen in one day races also, and am not a big fan of them either, but at least it happens less often with riders knowing there are no more stages to make up for a lackluster effort. I am an Ottavio Pratesi kind of guy when he rode as an isolati, but we will never see that type of racing again. Nor that of his countryman Bottecchia.
I know I will be criticized for my views, and so be it. I won't change and neither will the style of racing that prevails in cycling and many sports today and over previous years.
As I said, still enjoy the racing, but much less so. Next year I might view the final couple stages if there is any need to given a close competition near closing.
 
I understand your disappointment, as I also understand the casual observer’s confusion over a race like the Match Sprint in Velodrome racing.
At first, they don’t get all of the Cat and Mouse tactics, only to see the explosive sprint for the finish.
It’s like watching two skilled chess players trying to out maneuver the other guy.
Or as some would say, like watching paint dry.
lol!
But, once you have seen a few races, you soon learn to appreciate all of the subtle moves that get the winning rider in that perfect position to snatch the victory at the end.
Both Track and Road racing employ these types of tactics, but it’s the road race that plays out over many miles.
Rarely does the hard charging breakaway rider win the stage.
He might get a nice combativity award, for throwing himself on the grenade, but he doesn’t get the all important notch in the win column when it comes time to renegotiate his contract.
 
Different strokes for different folks I suppose?
I’ve tried to watch and enjoy Soccer, but I just don’t get the rabid enthusiasm as most.
I do enjoy Baseball, and I’ve heard many a complaint about how boring that game is.
I think what it is for me, is that I don’t really enjoy the typical back and forth types of ballgames.
Baseball is completely unique in the realm of ball games.
Just as Cycling is completely unique in the realm of human powered apparatus sports.
 
What I saw in the Cavendish stage win, was a masterful performance to stay on the wheels for as long as he could, conserving as much energy as possible, and then an uncanny ability to maneuver through heavy traffic at competition speed, without getting relegated and then making that final blast for the finish line ahead of the rest of the worlds fastest men on a bicycle.
It was brilliant!
But, that’s just what I saw.
I just didn’t want to see the other riders gift him the stage, and thankfully they didn’t.
They made him earn it fair and square.
As they say,
“There are no gifts in the Tour de France.”
 
Well, one things for sure.
These guys would’ve done much better financially, if they had taken up Baseball, Football or Basketball.
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Pretty much Chump Change, compared to the big league ball teams.
I think the Dodgers, Shohei Ohtani makes about that much each Inning!
Agreed. For all the effort and commitment these athletes go through, the average annual income is just shy of $50k. It’s the super stars of the sport that gets paid.

 
What I saw in the Cavendish stage win, was a masterful performance to stay on the wheels for as long as he could, conserving as much energy as possible, and then an uncanny ability to maneuver through heavy traffic at competition speed, without getting relegated and then making that final blast for the finish line ahead of the rest of the worlds fastest men on a bicycle.
It was brilliant!
But, that’s just what I saw.
I just didn’t want to see the other riders gift him the stage, and thankfully they didn’t.
They made him earn it fair and square.
As they say,
“There are no gifts in the Tour de France.”
For the best announcer in the history of the sport, Phil Liggett, to leave his booth while announcing so he can physically show his tribute during his last stage of the TDF, must meant something. Cavendish will be missed in the tour.
 
@Schwinn Sales West it's not that I do not like stage racing, but it has become a lot less exciting. Too much waiting around to get the job done; teams and riders do not push themselves to their limits for an entire race. Too much picking and choosing. As a cyclist, a runner, and a wrestler I always went all out; win or lose, but there was no free ride with me. You either hung in to beat me or not. I did not like to be able to stand after an effort; but I also understood what you needed to do if required to do it day after day and keeping enough in the tank to perform adequately. When I saw stage 5 and 6 with that many fighting for a stage win it showed that the pace was never pushed and I could have just tuned in for the final minute and just watch a free-for-all with it just being a chance of who avoids an accident rather than who is actually the best rider. Cavendish's win meant nothing to me, not impressive in and of itself. If the pace had really been pushed would he have even been near enough to the lead to be able to push, shove, and not stay his line like so many others? I think not. And yes, I have seen it happen in one day races also, and am not a big fan of them either, but at least it happens less often with riders knowing there are no more stages to make up for a lackluster effort. I am an Ottavio Pratesi kind of guy when he rode as an isolati, but we will never see that type of racing again. Nor that of his countryman Bottecchia.
I know I will be criticized for my views, and so be it. I won't change and neither will the style of racing that prevails in cycling and many sports today and over previous years.
As I said, still enjoy the racing, but much less so. Next year I might view the final couple stages if there is any need to given a close competition near closing.

All valid and good points. My view is that you are likely also tired of seeing the exact same from any of our major professional sports today. NASCAR Sunday Races with stages and gas mileage strategy. The NFL, NBA, MLB all have dominant players and dominant teams that can, but rarely turn up the wick to 100%.

If for no other reason, I would watch the TdF for the unbelievable TV coverage. I believe they convey to the viewer the difficulty of the course, and how difficult the logistics of the race are for the riders and teams.

I enjoyed hearing your view point

John
 
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