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Cruisin' on my Bluebird
that would be Braking on a ND..... Breaking is for Morrow
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Which Coaster Brake Hub Is Your Favorite?
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Obi-Wan Schwinnobi
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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cyclingday
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Don't forget to vote, Jason.
Morrow is posting a goose egg at the moment.
Morrow is posting a goose egg at the moment.
Obi-Wan Schwinnobi
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
No hard feelings I hope, it's all in good fun
Here's how I see it:
The Morrow and musselman have the "flaw" of a non-renewable braking surface.
Musselman is wonderfully simple but getting the braking right can be tricky.
Morrow is heavier, has an overly complicated design that produces no measurable benefit,
and has the inherent longer throw from brake to drive that some find disconcerting.
The Model D is lightweight, not complicated, all of the braking comes from easily replaced parts, not the hub shell itself.
All of the wear problems I've seen with the D have come from incorrect or insufficient service. The squealing brake is a problem that can be solved.
To me the Morrow is beautiful, Musselman elegant, but New Departure won the race fair and square.
Here's how I see it:
The Morrow and musselman have the "flaw" of a non-renewable braking surface.
Musselman is wonderfully simple but getting the braking right can be tricky.
Morrow is heavier, has an overly complicated design that produces no measurable benefit,
and has the inherent longer throw from brake to drive that some find disconcerting.
The Model D is lightweight, not complicated, all of the braking comes from easily replaced parts, not the hub shell itself.
All of the wear problems I've seen with the D have come from incorrect or insufficient service. The squealing brake is a problem that can be solved.
To me the Morrow is beautiful, Musselman elegant, but New Departure won the race fair and square.
bikewhorder
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
I like the ND Model A but that's based purely on exterior aesthetics, I've never taken one apart, or even ridden a bike with one for that matter. I just think they're purdy. Its what's on the outside that counts right?
37fleetwood
Riding a '37 Fleetwood
Huffman tended to favor Morrow, as Jason mentioned, others used Morrow.
a well maintained Morrow is a wonder to ride. I've converted a few people to Huffman, but the real credit might belong to a well adjusted Morrow out back.
a well maintained Morrow is a wonder to ride. I've converted a few people to Huffman, but the real credit might belong to a well adjusted Morrow out back.
Jeff54
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Has to call out the Bendix because, Back in the day, 60-70's, building coaster brake bikes, Bendix brakes were the easiest to rebuild and, or, for the most part, never needed rebuilding just a good cleaning. Tough, durable and simple always gets my vote.
The greater of the competition then, 60-70's was NP, and in comparison, it was crap!
The greater of the competition then, 60-70's was NP, and in comparison, it was crap!
bairdco
I live for the CABE
I love Musselman hubs. They look awesome with those cooling fins, and every one I've had stops perfectly.
ND hubs are ok. Had some that worked good, some that worked lousy, but never had one I'd trust bombing hills all day.
Bendix are the go-to, cheap hub that usually works great. The red bands are usually trouble-free and go forever without servicing. The 70's mexico versions I'm not a big fan of. I had a couple of them where the pressed on spoke flanges un-pressed themselves and my wheels exploded. This was on first generation bmx bikes.
Had a few Fichtel Sachs hubs. Komet, torpedo boys, super komets... these usually work good, but had a few where after braking, would freewheel forward 180° or more before engaging into gear again. One was an NOS komet and no matter what I tried, it was never rideable. I've also had the brake cone that holds the arm chip chunks off, causing the arm to flop around.
Perry hubs and the Mark IV that schwinn used were ok, but I've toasted them going down big hills.
Early Suntour hubs (70's-80's) worked great, but when they switched to suntour.com hubs they were junk.
Newer Shimano hubs (CB E-110) work great, the best were the 70's Shimano BMX hubs (which was the same as the CB D-110)
All chinese hubs, KT, Falcon, Hi-stop, etc are absolute garbage. They creak when new, and break shortly after.
Best coaster brake hub on the planet is the Durex hub, made in Germany in the 50's. The brake shoes are 3 times the size of any hub, and were used on mopeds and tandems.
Excellent braking, perfect modulation, and like everything else the germans built, simple and indestructible. I have a 135mm on my DX klunker...
ND hubs are ok. Had some that worked good, some that worked lousy, but never had one I'd trust bombing hills all day.
Bendix are the go-to, cheap hub that usually works great. The red bands are usually trouble-free and go forever without servicing. The 70's mexico versions I'm not a big fan of. I had a couple of them where the pressed on spoke flanges un-pressed themselves and my wheels exploded. This was on first generation bmx bikes.
Had a few Fichtel Sachs hubs. Komet, torpedo boys, super komets... these usually work good, but had a few where after braking, would freewheel forward 180° or more before engaging into gear again. One was an NOS komet and no matter what I tried, it was never rideable. I've also had the brake cone that holds the arm chip chunks off, causing the arm to flop around.
Perry hubs and the Mark IV that schwinn used were ok, but I've toasted them going down big hills.
Early Suntour hubs (70's-80's) worked great, but when they switched to suntour.com hubs they were junk.
Newer Shimano hubs (CB E-110) work great, the best were the 70's Shimano BMX hubs (which was the same as the CB D-110)
All chinese hubs, KT, Falcon, Hi-stop, etc are absolute garbage. They creak when new, and break shortly after.
Best coaster brake hub on the planet is the Durex hub, made in Germany in the 50's. The brake shoes are 3 times the size of any hub, and were used on mopeds and tandems.
Excellent braking, perfect modulation, and like everything else the germans built, simple and indestructible. I have a 135mm on my DX klunker...
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