Bearing Cap thing stuck on head tube

[AS-1]

Once the cone is clear and the steering tube threads look good, apply cutting oil to the threads and work the cone up a little and back it down a little. Repeat, repeat, etc. until you can remove the cone.

 

[GTs58]

If you do get the threaded head cup off and threads cleaned up, flip your bearing cage over because it's upside down. Or is that down side up for the people that unloosen things.

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

If you do get the threaded head cup off and threads cleaned up, flip your bearing cage over because it's upside down. Or is that down side up for the people that unloosen things.

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The artist drawing in the Schwinn Parts catalog is WRONG. #2560 His #73 top bearing is just fine.


John

 

[BFGforme]

D is definitely the wrong direction!

 

[GTs58]

With this type of headset the bearing placement shown in the parts list is correct. Note the bottom bearing on the parts list. The balls do not ride on either of the top or bottom cups, just on the cones E and H.

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

With this type of headset the bearing placement shown in the parts list is correct. Note the bottom bearing on the parts list. The balls do not ride on either of the top or bottom cups, just on the cones E and H.

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Schwinn designed the Deluxe headset with a reversed top adjusting cone/cup on the top to carry increased bearing loads. The adjusting cone, is actually a "adjusting cup", and the stationary cone is press fit into the frame. It uses a #73 top bearing and a #2557 bottom bearing. It has not changed one bit in the last 70 years. The original poster's bearing is correctly positioned, the Schwinn Parts Catalog was incorrectly drawn in the 1960's. Your 2nd photo with the bearing installed is correct. If you are not sure just place the bearing into the "adjusting cup" (printed writing facing towards the ground) and put some downward pressure on the cup into the frame cone. Then reverse the bearing and try the test again, it will drag if placed like shown in your top installed photo.

I'm not making this stuff up.

Take your headset over to Ken Patterson at Pat's and ask him which direction is correct.

John

 

[GTs58]

Schwinn designed the Deluxe headset with a reversed top adjusting cone/cup on the top to carry increased bearing loads. The adjusting cone, is actually a "adjusting cup", and the stationary cone is press fit into the frame. It uses a #73 top bearing and a #2557 bottom bearing. It has not changed one bit in the last 70 years. The original poster's bearing is correctly positioned, the Schwinn Parts Catalog was incorrectly drawn in the 1960's. Your 2nd photo with the bearing installed is correct. If you are not sure just place the bearing into the "adjusting cup" (printed writing facing towards the ground) and put some downward pressure on the cup into the frame cone. Then reverse the bearing and try the test again, it will drag if placed like shown in your top installed photo.

I'm not making this stuff up.

John

I cannot tighten the cup down when the bearing cage flat is down. It binds up because the balls are further down the race pushing them outwards. Meaning the balls are not seated at the cone correctly.

 

[J-wagon]

Some deluxe headset discussion here
Thread 'Collegiate headset question…' https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/collegiate-headset-question….205786/

 

[Wolfmac]

Yup. Lots of lube and tighten first and look for damage just as John described. Channel locks are last resort

 

[AS-1]

The upper ball retainer in the picture in the opening post is installed correctly.