Corbin & New Departure Hub Dating Project - Need everyone's help pre-1933

[Gary Mc]

From "The Iron Age" - October 23, 1902 - Corbin Duplex 1903 model ND

Corbin's Duplex New Departure Coaster and Brake - 1903 Model (Improved 1902 model

From "The Iron Age" - October 23, 1902

http://books.google.com/books?id=I-...=onepage&q=new departure 1902 coaster&f=false

P & F Corbin New Britain Conn and 11 15 Murray street New York have recently brought out a more improved form of the Corbin Duplex 1902 model New Departure coaster and brake as here shown Pig 1 Fig L Corbin's New Departure Coaster and Brake represents it as marketed Fig 2 being a sectional cut with the shell of hub broken away to show the interior and the relation each part bears to the other Figs 3 and 4 respectively braking clutch and driving clutch are marked changes in the brake Intended to give a positive action instead of relying on friction in the ZB 29 r Fig 2 Sectional View of Working Parts clutches Fig 5 shows the arm and cover at the left of the brake with brake shoes levers and springs features that are also entirely new in the brake By this method of construction when the clutch is put into operation the action is immediate and positive but the brake will not set Itself as a brake with an expanding spring the brake shoes 22 in a parallel movement into frlc tioual contact with the interior surface of the brake drum which goofballs the speed or stops the bicycle according to the volume of pressure applied When the pressure is removed the springs 24 bring the brake shoes 22 back into position automatically The brake shoes are said to be made of material that will not stick grind or squeak and any desired pressure can be exerted on the brake with safety Some of the points made in favor of this coaster and brake by the makers are that it does not alter the appearance of the wheel there is no lateral strain or racking of the frame at any time no kick off is required to release the brake and the Fig 3 Braking Clutch Fig 4 Driving Clutch wheel can be trundled forward or backward freely Each bearing is fitted with ball retainers and it is rain and dust proof This model of brake is also made for motor cycles - Page 62, October 23, 1902, THE IRON AGE

 

[Gary Mc]

Ok a little more fun for my last post here tonight.....

as it's time to start watching the elections results as they come in!!!!!!!!!

I give you a New Departure Coaster Brake Post Card:

 

[Gary Mc]

Ok, I was wrong - one more final post tonight & I'm done for the evening!!!!!!

QUESTION FOR FELLOW CABE MEMBERS AND I WOULD LIKE SOME HONEST FEEDBACK:

• Is anyone paying attention to this thread?
  
• Is anyone enjoying this thread or do you just hate it popping up on new posts continually?
  
• Do I need to continue with it or just go away and forget the thread?
  
• Anyone absolutely sick of seeing this thread pop up on your new posts and just want it to "GO AWAY"?

There are 111 posts in this thread & 94 are mine. I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to date!!!!!!

BUT, (there's always a big but) I don't want to continue if it is just driving the masses crazy & I don't know it.

I'm enjoying writing this thread for my personal satisfaction and enjoy doing things that help others which I think I am doing here but I could just as easily either go write a book and either offer it for sale or keep all this to myself so before I continue a whole lot further it would be nice to get some honest raw feedback. I know I am like a rabid bulldog (UGA Bulldog Grad) & when I start something it's like a freight train bearing down on you as you can tell by the number of posts the last few days in this thread alone. I don't want to do something driving other members crazy is the bottom line so I need to know, proceed, slow up which would be hard for me, or just plain stop. And BTW, I have a thick skin so be truthful.

 

[Andrew Gorman]

I like it!

 

[chitown]

You're kidding right?

...when I start something it's like a freight train bearing down...

Please continue with this awesome thread. I wish I could contribute more but can't keep up with all the wonderful info posted here. I've got a model M front hub I can take some shots of but don't have much else to offer other than encouragement to continue posting valuable information.

Roll train, roll!

[video=youtube_share;QiTNgWtlBI4]http://youtu.be/QiTNgWtlBI4[/video]

 

[dfa242]

Oh, absolutely keep it comin' - this is great stuff!

 

[s1b]

Great thread! Keep it coming!

 

[Balloontyre]

stare deeply into this thread.... you are getting sleepy, very sleepy...

Good Stuff Gary,
I'm diggin it, hopefully the various front hubs will be clearified also. Keep up the great work.

 

[Gary Mc]

Thank You ALL for the positive input....

so with that I will continue to roll on!!!!!!!!

 

[Gary Mc]

November 4, 1899 Scientific American Article page 299 - IMPORTANT FIND

The "New Departure" Automatic Coaster; This article's last sentence suggests that New Departure was manufacturing their own hubs by November 4th, 1899. I have found another book I'll post later that corroborates this is true and that in 1899 Albert Rockwell changed the design so that his company, New Departure Bell Co. could produce the coaster brake. This is extremely important as we now have 2 sources for this date meaning Corbin only contract manufactured the New Departure Bell Co coaster brake for about a year.

http://books.google.com/books?id=3Z...age&q=1900 new departure bell coaster&f=false

THE NEW DEPARTURE AUTOMATIC COASTER We have from time to time published descriptions of novel forms of bicycle devices We take pleasure in publishing herewith a new form of coaster hub which possesses novelty of construction in several particulars It will be noticed from the description given below that in going down hill the wheels may be allowed to run freely with the pedals remaining in a stationary position while the brake may be applied by simply bringing weight to bear upon the rear pedal The coaster uses 86 straight spokes and can be furnished with any size or thickness of sprocket from 7 teeth by 1 inch up No fitting or adjusting is necessary for the hub when it leaves the factory is in perfect order ready to be placed on the wheel It has the advantage of being no larger than the regular bicycle hub and has its coasting device assembled compactly and securely within the hub shell Anyone can apply the coaster in a few moments to any form of wheel Vlien the rider desires to coast the feet are simply held still thereby releasing the driving mechanism and allowing the wheel to coast freely By a slight downward pressure on the rear pedal the brake is brought into action and adjusted as required When it is desired togo ahead it is necessary simply to pedal forward in the usual manner There is no backpedaling the pedals cannot jump either forward or backward and there is no strain or twist whatever upon the machine What is probably the greatest advantage and one peculiar to this device is the fact that the rider always has a tight pedal under foot which feature is of itself of paramount importance in any free wheel device The best rider will naturally feel nervous and insecure if the pedals hang loosely under foot but in this improved device there is no point where the pedals are not in thorough contact either with the coasting or driving mechanism Second only to this point is the fact that the wheel inaybetrundled backward or forward allowing easy racking whether the coaster be on or off lti walking alongside of the machine the pedals may remain stationary so that they will not interfere with the limbs or clothing The method of obtaining these advantages will be noted by referring to the cuts Fig 1 shows the coaster hub assembled as shipped froln the factory Figs 2 and 3 show the manner of assembling the interior mechanism The chain when pulled forward causes the sprocket G to rotate This sprocket being fast upon the driver E causes it to rotate forward thereby drawing the cone D over into contact with the clutch F which being fast in the hub causes the hub to rotate and the wheel to move forward When the rider holds the feet still upon the pedals the driver E stops rota ting thus drawing the cone D out of engagement with the clutch F and carrying it across into the brake clutch U The brake is not yet applied but the wheel is free to coiist with the feet upon the pedals If it be desired to brake simply press lightly upon the rear pedal and the brake is instantly in operation and can be graduated to any degree desired When it is required to propel the wheel mercly pedal ahead the mechanism does all the adjusting There is no kick off The device is manufactured by the New Departure Bell Company Bristol Conn which is represented by John H Graham 8 Company No 113 Chambers Street New York NY