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Does anyone still make a high quality cruiser?
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Caj Remtiw
Look Ma, No Hands!
The point I was trying to make is... Walk a mile in my shoes before you act like the know it all expert!
I am/ was a maker ( and collector)... You are just a collector ( with a VERY HIGH opinion of himself) that happens to have something stuck up his hind quarters when it come to ME! And I'm getting a little tired of it.
I am/ was a maker ( and collector)... You are just a collector ( with a VERY HIGH opinion of himself) that happens to have something stuck up his hind quarters when it come to ME! And I'm getting a little tired of it.
Schwinn Sales West
I live for the CABE
I stand by my original statement that Johnny True Torch makes high quality frames, both BMX and BMX Cruiser. He's one of my sublet vendors, and just did an aluminum repair on a trailer trim part last week. Highly recommend his work.
Every BMX bike ever made was a copy of something before it. Trade Marks, and Patents only work if you spend the money to defend them and have a fleet of lawyers on retainer to chase down anyone that has anything close to infringement. Ford is currently going after all of the Bronco aftermarket vendors for using the Bronco name. requiring them to make DBA name changes. They said nothing for the past 25 years until they reintroduced their new Bronco. Volkswagen went after all of the aftermarket companies for using the BUG name, etc. The one with the deepest pockets wins the battle, not necessarily the right way, but it happens over and over. Schwinn (the original one) was the number one company for being ripped off in the Bicycle Industry. Scott Sports Group, and Pacific Cycle just continued to ride on the wave of products created by the original Schwinn as they took over ownership.
John
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Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Caj Remtiw
Look Ma, No Hands!
Thank you John. But, that is not something I don't already know!
I have relationships/ friendships with lots of companies ( From Kona and S&M down to one man "garage" shops) that make 3 bar cruisers VERY similar to the original CBR cruisers. But they are just "a little" different. They make a point of making sure that the buyer knows he/ she is not getting a Cook Bros. Racing cruiser frame set, but a tribute!
Now, Johnny Truetorch went out of his way to make exact replica frame components (very specific) and even in the beginning sold them with Cook Bros. Cruiser decals TO COUNTERFEIT my company's product!
Honestly, if I have to be the new dog to kick on CABE... So be it! I guess I am just "Old School" and think integrity means something!
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Miq
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Yep.
I'm game to swing a few kicks...
Then you can't cry when your abandoned brand gets taken over Jack. You know the rules and you let it happen.
cyclingday
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
I understand your frustration with the whole situation, but what I don’t understand, is why you didn’t just contract with Johnny to build your bikes, and then keep the brand alive.
That would’ve been a win win for both of you guys.
Good for the American bike industry too.
Then, you could’ve controlled what changes were made, to satisfy all the old time collectors of the first generation bikes.
That would’ve been a win win for both of you guys.
Good for the American bike industry too.
Then, you could’ve controlled what changes were made, to satisfy all the old time collectors of the first generation bikes.
Caj Remtiw
Look Ma, No Hands!
No ! Apparently I was not up to date on the rules until the issue landed in my lap and I honestly thought...
To quote myself:
Are you smoking Crack! Why would I go to a person that blatantly counterfeited my product!!!
And what point don't you get about...
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cyclingday
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Because you thought wrong, and the brand was worth a mint.
Just like the sale of Schwinn, the assets were worthless.
The name was worth a fortune.
The bummer is, when you don’t control the name, you don’t control the product that gets produced, and in the case with Schwinn, the product is just a shell of what it once was.
I now expect the same scenario with Cook Bros. Racing.
It’ll be a sad sight I’m sure.
At least with Johnny, you could’ve worked with him instead of against him, and you both could be proud of what you built.
Collaboration is the way to go.
Then you don’t have to stare down a welding torch or contract in China.
Build them here, and satisfy a hungry market for a good quality bike made in the U.S.A.
I can’t tell you how much I enjoy looking down at my True Torch knockoff, and seeing those gleaming stickers that say, Made in Santa Ana, Ca. U.S.A.
Just like the sale of Schwinn, the assets were worthless.
The name was worth a fortune.
The bummer is, when you don’t control the name, you don’t control the product that gets produced, and in the case with Schwinn, the product is just a shell of what it once was.
I now expect the same scenario with Cook Bros. Racing.
It’ll be a sad sight I’m sure.
At least with Johnny, you could’ve worked with him instead of against him, and you both could be proud of what you built.
Collaboration is the way to go.
Then you don’t have to stare down a welding torch or contract in China.
Build them here, and satisfy a hungry market for a good quality bike made in the U.S.A.
I can’t tell you how much I enjoy looking down at my True Torch knockoff, and seeing those gleaming stickers that say, Made in Santa Ana, Ca. U.S.A.
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