Oh no! Sears Chief Parted Out (!) on the bay

[creebobby]

Preened, not Ruffled.

As I see...your feathers are really ruffled. Well...I think I have explained myself plenty. I love your sense of thinking that people are not "miraculously" missing parts to any Chiefs because that would be MIRACULOUS if they were! There are Chiefs out there...and believe it or not...."miraculously"...they are missing parts. Some Chiefs are missing more than one or two miraculous parts. You have a choice now....try and buy the whole bike...or get the parts you need. Either way...ALL have a chance. I hope you get an invite to that reunion....

Honestly, my feathers aren't that ruffled (though looking back I did start this whole thread with 'Oh no!') - in the last post I was simply being a bit of a smartmouth.

If you reread my post, the stated miracle would be if all the proposed Chief projects out there were ONLY missing one part.
I was satirizing the implication that parting out a bike is altruistic because it completes a bunch of other bikes. It seems to me like it's just as likely to contribute to parts collections or even start new projects.

I feel that the most valid reason for parting out a bike is simple economics, and I agree that ebay is the best place to sell things for their market value.

I think, however, there is a little bit of a carnival hustle in suggesting that all have an equal chance to win either the parts or the complete bike.
Yes, all have an equal chance to win any particular part, but the notion that others simultaneously have an equally fair shot at getting the complete bike seems like a reach to me. Having separate part auctions favors separate part buyers.
In practical reality, the person who tries to buy all the parts will most likely fail, and in the process create inflated prices for the parts they bid on.

Who knows, maybe everything will sell real cheap
Best of luck to all who jump in on this one.

 

[miller32]

Honestly, my feathers aren't that ruffled (though looking back I did start this whole thread with 'Oh no!') - in the last post I was simply being a bit of a smartmouth.

If you reread my post, the stated miracle would be if all the proposed Chief projects out there were ONLY missing one part.
I was satirizing the implication that parting out a bike is altruistic because it completes a bunch of other bikes. It seems to me like it's just as likely to contribute to parts collections or even start new projects.

I feel that the most valid reason for parting out a bike is simple economics, and I agree that ebay is the best place to sell things for their market value.

I think, however, there is a little bit of a carnival hustle in suggesting that all have an equal chance to win either the parts or the complete bike.
Yes, all have an equal chance to win any particular part, but the notion that others simultaneously have an equally fair shot at getting the complete bike seems like a reach to me. Having separate part auctions favors separate part buyers.
In practical reality, the person who tries to buy all the parts will most likely fail, and in the process create inflated prices for the parts they bid on.

Who knows, maybe everything will sell real cheap
Best of luck to all who jump in on this one.

Creebobby...

I understand both sides..also! But if some bikes never get parted out....other bikes could never be finished. I...too...hope the parts go to completing a Chief bicycle or two - rather than landing on someone's shelf. I appreciate your reply...! Thanks....

 

[37fleetwood]

You make it sound so humanitarian, while the obvious motive is to rape and pilage for the most profit. there really aren't enough of these out there, and the value isn't so high that someone with a project wouldn't simply pick up this bike as a complete bike and then his collected parts would come out serving the same purpose you purport to be so concerned about.
in short I don't buy it. I just wish there was a way to deprive people who part out complete original bikes from getting them in the first place. if it were up to me, I would rather see this bike go to the landfil than see someone profit from it's destruction

 

[dougfisk]

You make it sound so humanitarian, while the obvious motive is to rape and pilage for the most profit. there really aren't enough of these out there, and the value isn't so high that someone with a project wouldn't simply pick up this bike as a complete bike and then his collected parts would come out serving the same purpose you purport to be so concerned about.... in short I don't buy it.

+1

The parts flung about for random uses can't possibly serve a higher purpose than in their original intact and complete installation. None of those "donee" bikes are original and intact. They are all cobbled together, regardless whether they are cobbled together poorly or cobbled together accurately.

I call BS on the "helping the hobby" rationalizations.

 

[Rust_Trader]

It makes me sick to read this kind of posts, let's stop being hypocrites. I'm sure all of you have bought parts to complete a bike. Or did you find that special tank/seat/rims/lights or whatever part on a shelf???

Come on guys stop the trash talk, you well know all of you benefit from bikes being parted out.


Most of the time I don't comment on threads like this but it just makes me sick how intrusive and hypocrites one can be.

 

[Nickinator]

It makes me sick to read this kind of posts, let's stop being hypocrites. I'm sure all of you have bought parts to complete a bike. Or did you find that special tank/seat/rims/lights or whatever part on a shelf???

Come on guys stop the trash talk, you well know all of you benefit from bikes being parted out.


Most of the time I don't comment on threads like this but it just makes me sick how intrusive and hypocrites one can be.

your right we all have bought parts off bikes before but, I would never part out a almost complete bike nor would I buy a part from it.
Its just bad karma for me and Wouldn't recommend it.

 

[Balloontyre]

All bikes started as parts.

Amazing how many people talk about bikes as though they are a living thing and need to be preserved and saved, blah blah blah...
It's someone else's property, who cares what they do with it.
What about collections never seeing the light of day, or bikes not being ridden?
To some that is outrage, again the owners choice. Who cares? Really!

 

[bricycle]

...see these bikes???
Shapleigh $400
US Cycle $750
B-10e $750
BA-107 $650
1956 JCH $150
Black Phantom $700
Iver $500
1960 Scwhinn Blk & Wht $375
...No one here at the time bought them whole.....so parted they got...nuff said!

 

[Rust_Trader]

You better Not be on the members map, do you hear steps behind you? Lol

...see these bikes???
Shapleigh $400
US Cycle $750
B-10e $750
BA-107 $650
1956 JCH $150
Black Phantom $700
Iver $500
...No one here at the time bought them whole.....so parted they got...nuff said!

 

[Bicycle Belle]

This debate will go on until the end of time, of that I'm sure.
Balloontyre, isn't that why people collect bicycles? To preserve and protect them? Isn't that why people collect anything in the first place?
I too am kind of tired of the romanticizing that goes on about parting bikes. It's done for profit plain and simple, at least be honest about it.
When I buy a bike I put NO consideration into what I would get if I sold it. For me it kind of defeats the purpose of being a collector. I do however come to a decision about the value and what I will pay based on the bicycle and the sum of its parts and a few other factors. I wouldn't part with or part a single bike in my humble collection and I have bikes from one end of the spectrum to the other value wise. I don't buy bikes to make money, it's not what interests me. I don't begrudge anyone else from making money but I can understand the sadness of seeing a nice old complete bike used that way.
I too have bought parts to complete bikes but I wouldn't have had to do that if they weren't parted out in the first place. Lately though I have had really good luck in finding really lovely complete bicycles and somewhat reasonable prices.