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Here is a good example of how through use of smart phones, computers, AI, and in this case handheld calculators are producing a generation of ( I will not say dumb, to harsh), but a generation of people that many are are relying on these devises for everything and not their brain.

So I use a few banks, and actually go inside them at least a few times a month to do transactions as I have never used an ATM machine in my life. I know ATM's are convenient, just not for me, and why does everything have to become more and more convenient. It won't be long when you won't even have to prepare or cook a meal any longer, just pick up your phone, press a few buttons and whatever you want will come to your door (pretty much has already happened) Anyway as happens sometimes when I go to the teller some young employee from the bank comes by and tells me their title like Assistant manager, Platinum Club Investment Manager, and ask me if I have time to discuss an investment "strategy" with me or some fancy name like that. I usually decline, but if I do have time I like to hear how someone "pitches" a product like this to me, and maybe they do have a good product to tell me about.
Anyway, one day I say ok, we go to their desk, they start talking mutual funds which are not Bank/FDIC insured which I am not to interested in. And then I ask them what I have done on a few occasions before in different banks or situations, I say, "Can you just tell me what 3% of a 100 is?". They reach to start punching numbers in a calculator, and I say STOP. Then I ask them if they really need to use a calculator to answer what I believe to be a simple math question. They said they have to use a calculator or computer to check all their math, I say OK, but just tell me first what you think 3% of a 100 is and then you can check you answer. They thought for a minute and said 30. I said no it is 3, and they punched into their computer and said, you are right, that is why we have calculators. I was nice and polite the whole time, and just said sorry not interested and left as I think this is now they are taught in school and work to do things now using technology in place of brains. Now I understand completely that a lot of people might not know simple math, that is OK of course. But someone who is a bank manager or similar should have some concept of math. It would not bother me if a bank teller did not know much math without a calculator, but someone who is going to give advise on how to invest someone else's money should absolutely have enough concept of money & math to be able to know that 3 is 3% of 100 without the use of a calculator. My theory is that now there is an "APP" or some easy way to try get answers to almost any question as long as you have a computer or smart phone. No trying to figure something out in your head, or try to write your own product description when with a few key punches of a few buttons you have an answer. Problem the answer could be wrong, description could be crap, and without knowing or being taught otherwise you would not know a good or bad answer to a question.

Real curious about this, my boys are middle aged men, grandkids still young. So can anyone tell me who have kids in school, or maybe teach, do they still teach addition, I would think so. How about long division, fractions. Do they still use pencil and paper in school to do this, or do they allow computers. I would hope before they would allow computers/calculators that at least a basic concept of math is taught.
Sorry, guess I had another rant in me with this post. Again my opinion only about all this.
 
Here is a good example of how through use of smart phones, computers, AI, and in this case handheld calculators are producing a generation of ( I will not say dumb, to harsh), but a generation of people that many are are relying on these devises for everything and not their brain.

So I use a few banks, and actually go inside them at least a few times a month to do transactions as I have never used an ATM machine in my life. I know ATM's are convenient, just not for me, and why does everything have to become more and more convenient. It won't be long when you won't even have to prepare or cook a meal any longer, just pick up your phone, press a few buttons and whatever you want will come to your door (pretty much has already happened) Anyway as happens sometimes when I go to the teller some young employee from the bank comes by and tells me their title like Assistant manager, Platinum Club Investment Manager, and ask me if I have time to discuss an investment "strategy" with me or some fancy name like that. I usually decline, but if I do have time I like to hear how someone "pitches" a product like this to me, and maybe they do have a good product to tell me about.
Anyway, one day I say ok, we go to their desk, they start talking mutual funds which are not Bank/FDIC insured which I am not to interested in. And then I ask them what I have done on a few occasions before in different banks or situations, I say, "Can you just tell me what 3% of a 100 is?". They reach to start punching numbers in a calculator, and I say STOP. Then I ask them if they really need to use a calculator to answer what I believe to be a simple math question. They said they have to use a calculator or computer to check all their math, I say OK, but just tell me first what you think 3% of a 100 is and then you can check you answer. They thought for a minute and said 30. I said no it is 3, and they punched into their computer and said, you are right, that is why we have calculators. I was nice and polite the whole time, and just said sorry not interested and left as I think this is now they are taught in school and work to do things now using technology in place of brains. Now I understand completely that a lot of people might not know simple math, that is OK of course. But someone who is a bank manager or similar should have some concept of math. It would not bother me if a bank teller did not know much math without a calculator, but someone who is going to give advise on how to invest someone else's money should absolutely have enough concept of money & math to be able to know that 3 is 3% of 100 without the use of a calculator. My theory is that now there is an "APP" or some easy way to try get answers to almost any question as long as you have a computer or smart phone. No trying to figure something out in your head, or try to write your own product description when with a few key punches of a few buttons you have an answer. Problem the answer could be wrong, description could be crap, and without knowing or being taught otherwise you would not know a good or bad answer to a question.

Real curious about this, my boys are middle aged men, grandkids still young. So can anyone tell me who have kids in school, or maybe teach, do they still teach addition, I would think so. How about long division, fractions. Do they still use pencil and paper in school to do this, or do they allow computers. I would hope before they would allow computers/calculators that at least a basic concept of math is taught.
Sorry, guess I had another rant in me with this post. Again my opinion only about all this.
It was rather apparent to me that the kid who was trying to make change at Wendy's the other night didn't understand the subtle nuances of addition and subtraction. He might have missed basic grammar, too, but the tattoos on his neck sure made him look sophisticated.
 
Hi Mike,

I appreciate your disgust with AI descriptions and how you think that technology is making people stupid. I also appreciate your very detailed and thoughtful description of the chainguard that you are trying to sell. By the way, did it sell? Did you use your description? If you knew that you would get more money at auction, would you choose the AI description? I like your description. It shows that you care and are knowledgeable, it makes me think that you are a seller that I can trust.

So, I took what you wrote and, in a few seconds, got this: without AI, it would have taken me a long time...

Original 5-Speed Schwinn Lemon Peeler Chainguard - Yellow with Original Paint & Screen


Condition Overview:


  • Original paint with minor touch-up before the "S"
  • Well-used with typical wear: nicks, scratches, and paint loss areas
  • Chrome top retains shine; small ding/dents above "N" (visible/feelable)
  • Back chrome maintains shine despite scratches, wear, dark spots, and pitting
  • Original screen/lettering present but shows wear
  • Rear bracket has typical minor wiggle, tightens when installed

Specifications:


  • Mounting holes: approximately 14" apart
  • Removed from: 5-speed Yellow Stingray Fastback
  • Shipping: $16.75 (USA only) or local pickup in San Jose

Notes:


  • Original paint guards complement fair/average condition bikes better than repaints
  • Increasingly rare to find original paint/screen guards
  • No returns/warranties on fitment or condition
  • Photos provide best representation of condition

Seller Information:


  • eBay member since 1998
  • 100% positive feedback
  • Specialized in Stingray parts
What do you think of this format instead of the paragraph?

Happy Trails!
Chris
 
Need to free up a garage.. I have classic bikes listed on craigslist locally.. rock bottom prices.. like 175.. etc.. less than wal mart bikes..

people wanting to negotiate price.. still..

everyones a hustler in 25..
 
Hi Mike,

I appreciate your disgust with AI descriptions and how you think that technology is making people stupid. I also appreciate your very detailed and thoughtful description of the chainguard that you are trying to sell. By the way, did it sell? Did you use your description? If you knew that you would get more money at auction, would you choose the AI description? I like your description. It shows that you care and are knowledgeable, it makes me think that you are a seller that I can trust.

So, I took what you wrote and, in a few seconds, got this: without AI, it would have taken me a long time...

Original 5-Speed Schwinn Lemon Peeler Chainguard - Yellow with Original Paint & Screen


Condition Overview:


  • Original paint with minor touch-up before the "S"
  • Well-used with typical wear: nicks, scratches, and paint loss areas
  • Chrome top retains shine; small ding/dents above "N" (visible/feelable)
  • Back chrome maintains shine despite scratches, wear, dark spots, and pitting
  • Original screen/lettering present but shows wear
  • Rear bracket has typical minor wiggle, tightens when installed

Specifications:


  • Mounting holes: approximately 14" apart
  • Removed from: 5-speed Yellow Stingray Fastback
  • Shipping: $16.75 (USA only) or local pickup in San Jose

Notes:


  • Original paint guards complement fair/average condition bikes better than repaints
  • Increasingly rare to find original paint/screen guards
  • No returns/warranties on fitment or condition
  • Photos provide best representation of condition

Seller Information:


  • eBay member since 1998
  • 100% positive feedback
  • Specialized in Stingray parts
What do you think of this format instead of the paragraph?

Happy Trails!
Chris
Thanks for the very informative response. In answer to your questions. Yes, I have the guard still for sale on Ebay. I like my description better, but the AI description you got is not bad at all. Maybe would use AI quote if it brought more money but do think it would. I think the AI quote looks like kind of like AI, or a description someone just lifted from another listing and added the few specifics about dents and such. But I think to get the AI you got you have to go into all the detail about the specific item you are selling as you stated "you got the AI from what I wrote so I am not sure how much time it will save, I kind of like the format you came back with if you want something professional and slick looking, I tend to like just rambling on in a paragraph or two, sometimes even repeating the same thing a time or two by mistake. I like listing descriptions that seen personal with many actual photos of an item, and descriptions that look like it took someone some time and thought to compose. Again just my opinion, and appreciate your post which raised some good questions for me to ponder.
 
AI will kill us all if it gets the chance.. never forget that.. go watch 'I Robot', 2004, Will Smith
That would be funny if Isaac Asimov wrote that the robot went to the guy's house to kill him.
You know, because of his chainguard description and failure to comply with SS329.02-5. Where-in,
"All EaBai descriptions must adhere to all standard AI formatting, omitting all coherency and factual
basis of actual item or service being offered. Immediate termination for non-compliance, implied or
otherwise."
 
One thing I think about on occasion is the massive amounts of information that’s saved on the internet. When the S hits the fan and the whole system goes down. No electricity, no internet, no massive servers online, no information. All gone forever. Back in the olden days they wrote in books. That information was saved for a very long time!
Sh** will happen, the 'Net will crash, and all those fools who actually fell for the crypto-currency lies will be crying.
 
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