Pre '33 AS&CO Serial Number Project

[dasberger]

Was there a long head tube version and a short head tube version? Here are two Michigan City motobikes with the exact same paint scheme; one has a long head tube, the other short, the battery tank with built in switch will fit both. These two Excelsiors are not Schwinn built but just being shown as an example of what was occurring at that time

I know there was a 3" and a 5" head tube on the motorbikes with the down tube meeting the head tube on the 5" and meeting the lower straight bar on 3"

 

[Stu Pitt]

Hey @onecatahula it's my pleasure to take this on! Really it takes a village and it's nice to finally see it come together. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and projects. It's high time this period in Schwinn history gets a proper look. These are fantastic machines and still so solid after a century of use and abuse.

After an initial dive revealed so many motorbikes it's amazing to see all of these Truss and Double Arch bikes come out of the woodwork. I will update the list when I get a chance.

@Stu Pitt let's see that badge....

Headbadge as requested.

With the more reliable frame serial number year, as opposed to the hub date years, I have a serviceable ND model A hub I might lace into the rear wheel.

 

[cyclingday]

Mark’s 1916 double arch bar frame was the smallest/shortest of the 28” wheel type frames, and my 1917 double arch bar frame was the biggest/tallest of the 28” wheel type frames made available by Schwinn at the time.
Interesting to see both of these frames in their different maximum/minimum sizes.

 

[dasberger]

Headbadge as requested.

With the more reliable frame serial number year, as opposed to the hub date years, I have a serviceable ND model A hub I might lace into the rear wheel.

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Nice badge! @barneyguey I'm seeing a Pre '33 addendum in the works! Didn't see Edwards and Crist in Vol 1 or 2

 

[Stu Pitt]

Nice badge! @barneyguey I'm seeing a Pre '33 addendum in the works! Didn't see Edwards and Crist in Vol 1 or 2

The Edwards & Crist anchor store in Chicago was about 4 blocks away from the Schwinn factory.

 

[dasberger]

After a long search I finally found a correct 28" fork for the Lincoln. Its was a rat/rider with a 26" fork when I got it. Thanks @Dave Stromberger for the assist. There is too much OG paint on the frame for a repaint. I think I'm going to try to clean the overspray on the head tube and see what I can bring back before deciding on the fork. I think I may try my hand at matching the frame.

Looking better already! Had a bit of a clown bike feel before... fork is straight (now)... Just no bearings in this pic

 

[markivpedalpusher]

Impossible badge to find in the DOND forum

Teens Schwinn Square Excelisor Badge | Deal Or No Deal

For your consideration a DOND offering: Accepted offer will include shipping from Richmond, VA Scarce original 1910’s Schwinn Excelsior square cross pattern badge in the earlier version of what I would call the “intaglio” vs. “relief” but I’ve also heard “innie” vs. “outie” - Tough to find...

thecabe.com

 

[dasberger]

Here's the updated list.... Keep 'em coming fellas! If anyone has more info on any of the bikes listed please help us fill in the blanks

 

[Archie Sturmer]

Below is a link to what may be another one. https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/mead-frame.203431/

 

[dasberger]

Below is a link to what may be another one. https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/mead-frame.203431/

Welds and serial don't look like Schwinn to me