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corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
Feb 11, 2012
1,450
Burbank, United States
I think the selling practices of some people on this site really stink!!!!! ( 98% or people are great though ....... always that 2% that ruin it for others )

My new avatar is pretty self explanatory as to what I think of some of these people.

They should call themselves something like "crapcycles" .......... or .. we'renothonestcycles or ........ cyclery etc

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I've always been straight up with buyers. If you post something for sale and a person responds first to that post, then they should be first in line to get it. ( I never sell first to the 2nd person down until there is an honest answer form that first buyer etc... ). But I understand some people like to sell to the people who they hug and pat on the back behind closed doors.

** This is an issue that needs to be addressed with the CABE admins: -> I believe that "ONCE" a seller decides to list an item in the "For Sale" forum, then the first to respond has first right to buy ( and not through a PM - I've tried that too and it doesn't work ). IT MUST BE A POST on the actual thread as this is the fairest for everyone. I think many sellers will let time drag on and then say that - "Oh so and so wanted it yesterday through a text" or my friend wanted it. Otherwise, if the the seller doesn't follow these rules - THEN THEY SHOULD LEAVE THE CABE cycling community. If you're not going to treat people with respect as a seller ( or even a buyer ) then you don't belong here ... period! These people have gotten away with this practice for too long. Like eBay .. when you put in your bid, then you have first right to buy it and he can't sell it to the second guy in line even if that person happens to be his friend ( well unless they remove it and sell it to their friend ).

Any thoughts here? .. I have seen this issue posted before and thought it was best to bring this up again.
 

John G04

I live for the CABE
Oct 17, 2016
1,727
57
Bethlehem, PA, United States
I understand the issue your talking about but the person your discussing has done a TON more for the hobby in good ways than bad.
 

phantom

I live for the CABE
Nov 14, 2010
1,310
GA
On e bay you only have the first right to buy an item if you hit the BIN tab. First bids on an item usually are not the winning bid at all. I understand the classifieds here do require a price in the ad, however, there is no way to force a seller to sell anything they list. I have actually offered more than an item here was listed for and received it.
 

fattyre

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Oct 22, 2014
958
Chicagoland
but the person your discussing has done a TON more for the hobby in good ways than bad.
...All bow down to the martyrs of the hobby. Please let me participate in this hobby bicycle Jesus.... LOL.


This hobby is all about who you know and/or how much money you have. Plain and simple.
 
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vincev

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 2, 2008
13,271
crown point<indiana
I understand how you feel but that is not a rule in buying and selling. I had a chance to really screw a Cabe member a few years ago because he bought something really nice off C L.The item belonged to my buddy.I didnt know it was for sale until my friend got the money order and was ready to ship. My friend said he would mail the money order back and I could buy the item.I refused and let the Caber have the item.Yea,I wanted the item badly but passed.Sometimes its also a matter of shipping or local pickup.
 

stoney

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jul 19, 2013
3,506
65
Fuquay Varina, NC, United States
I think the selling practices of some people on this site really stink!!!!! ( 98% or people are great though ....... always that 2% that ruin it for others )

My new avatar is pretty self explanatory as to what I think of some of these people.

They should call themselves something like "crapcycles" .......... or .. we'renothonestcycles or ........ cyclery etc

====

I've always been straight up with buyers. If you post something for sale and a person responds first to that post, then they should be first in line to get it. ( I never sell first to the 2nd person down until there is an honest answer form that first buyer etc... ). But I understand some people like to sell to the people who they hug and pat on the back behind closed doors.

** This is an issue that needs to be addressed with the CABE admins: -> I believe that "ONCE" a seller decides to list an item in the "For Sale" forum, then the first to respond has first right to buy ( and not through a PM - I've tried that too and it doesn't work ). IT MUST BE A POST on the actual thread as this is the fairest for everyone. I think many sellers will let time drag on and then say that - "Oh so and so wanted it yesterday through a text" or my friend wanted it. Otherwise, if the the seller doesn't follow these rules - THEN THEY SHOULD LEAVE THE CABE cycling community. If you're not going to treat people with respect as a seller ( or even a buyer ) then you don't belong here ... period! These people have gotten away with this practice for too long. Like eBay .. when you put in your bid, then you have first right to buy it and he can't sell it to the second guy in line even if that person happens to be his friend ( well unless they remove it and sell it to their friend ).

Any thoughts here? .. I have seen this issue posted before and thought it was best to bring this up again.
I do agree. When a buyer shows interest in purchasing an item posted by seller the buyer should post on the thread his/her intent. THEN send a PM, but first post publicly their intent to buy. Should not be done just by a PM. It just shows more clarity to everyone and not a back door deal. I am not saying I never sold anything though a PM, I try not to. It should not be allowed. My thoughts.
 
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KevinsBikes

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 21, 2016
518
39
Phoenix, AZ
A wise man once said: “there will always be more bikes”

Also keep in mind as a seller, many buyers/people are “interested”, ask lots of questions, etc and then bail. I’ve had people tell me I’ll pay you after work, I’m PayPal ready, when I get home, I’ll pay Friday...only to be ghosted/ignored and sometimes if I’m lucky given excuses why they can’t buy it anymore. Honestly it can be super time consuming and exhausting to deal with people like that. In general first person to actually pay gets what I’m selling

I do my best to give first in line priority and honor that - but be realistic, Admins here are not getting paid I assume - how exactly would a time based system be enforced? It would end up looking like Facebook marketplace where if you list an item you get 100 messages from people just curious if it’s still for sale or commenting “take” - I like the CABE format personally and would not expect admins to police sales in that sort of detail.

I can understand serious frustration with a part you’ve been waiting for a long time. If this is really a hobby though - its just a matter of time or money to find the part you need.


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bike

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 26, 2007
6,342
Bicycleland
Whether post or pm gets it should be clearly stated by the seller- I do one and then the other only to be told I was beat on pm. PM is the only way I sell. I dont know if the people have posted on my many listings. Also PM SENT means nothing! Unless you post I WILL BUY IT it can mean they are asking questions or making an offer and scares others away who want
to extend courtesy to the person who sent the pm.
 

CWCMAN

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Mar 2, 2014
2,763
Sunny Southern California
I fill your frustration since this has seemingly happened to me before but the bottom line is, a seller has the right to sell or refuse sale to anyone they choose.

The honest thing to do is sell it to the first person to respond providing they are rapid with their payment and not trying to delay. Absent that, the part goes to whomever you like better or have had good dealings with.

I frequently offer up high end parts behind the scenes before posting anything up for sale though.

Just my two cents
 

saladshooter

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Nov 30, 2014
2,103
Littleton, CO
I could use some high end parts! :)
I fill your frustration since this has seemingly happened to me before but the bottom line is, a seller has the right to sell or refuse sale to anyone they choose.

The honest thing to do is sell it to the first person to respond providing they are rapid with their payment and not trying to delay. Absent that, the part goes to whomever you like better or have had good dealings with.

I frequently offer up high end parts behind the scenes before posting anything up for sale though.

Just my two cents
 
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49autocycledeluxe

I live for the CABE
May 29, 2017
1,426
60
fremont california
I always laugh at buyers who think they can dictate the rules to the person who actually owns the piece in question.

my stuff, my rules.

maybe people who feel hurt buying old items from individual sellers should only buy new stuff at the store.
 
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bobcycles

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Sep 30, 2006
4,505
13
so cal beaches
I think the selling practices of some people on this site really stink!!!!! ( 98% or people are great though ....... always that 2% that ruin it for others )

My new avatar is pretty self explanatory as to what I think of some of these people.

They should call themselves something like "crapcycles" .......... or .. we'renothonestcycles or ........ cyclery etc

====

I've always been straight up with buyers. If you post something for sale and a person responds first to that post, then they should be first in line to get it. ( I never sell first to the 2nd person down until there is an honest answer form that first buyer etc... ). But I understand some people like to sell to the people who they hug and pat on the back behind closed doors.

** This is an issue that needs to be addressed with the CABE admins: -> I believe that "ONCE" a seller decides to list an item in the "For Sale" forum, then the first to respond has first right to buy ( and not through a PM - I've tried that too and it doesn't work ). IT MUST BE A POST on the actual thread as this is the fairest for everyone. I think many sellers will let time drag on and then say that - "Oh so and so wanted it yesterday through a text" or my friend wanted it. Otherwise, if the the seller doesn't follow these rules - THEN THEY SHOULD LEAVE THE CABE cycling community. If you're not going to treat people with respect as a seller ( or even a buyer ) then you don't belong here ... period! These people have gotten away with this practice for too long. Like eBay .. when you put in your bid, then you have first right to buy it and he can't sell it to the second guy in line even if that person happens to be his friend ( well unless they remove it and sell it to their friend ).

Any thoughts here? .. I have seen this issue posted before and thought it was best to bring this up again.

----I clearly explained the situation regarding the bicycle you were interested in. I could not have explained it more clearly and you're still
going on about this? I kept my word to the 1st person who showed interest in the bicycle and asked if they could think about it for
the day. I agreed! Explaining that I was going to post it just in case they decided to pass, the buyer, also a collector
friend, then contacted me directly to go forward with the purchase. It's really that simple. I feel I treat people very fairly and situations
like this are unpleasant for all involved especially when drama drags out for no reason other than sour grapes. I have missed a
ton of deals on the Cabe I "thought" I was first in line for. Something else will come along that you will enjoy as much hopefully..
and all the best to you for holidays my friend.
 

mr.cycleplane

I live for the CABE
Sep 9, 2017
1,011
Auburn, California
This horse has been beat to death before but apparently it needs reviving. Example: You place and ad here on the C.A.B.E . The first responder asks how long the item is or can you do any better on the price. The second responder is right behind him and says..."I'll take it". Guess who wins the item...second responder gets it as he is not wasting your time and wants the item. The first responder is the first place loser. This type responder may take a day or two to decide if he wants the item or not-he is wasting valuable time. Its step up or step back!
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Barto

I live for the CABE
Mar 13, 2015
1,774
Somers, United States
Was at a swap meet and I offered to buy a pedal car with a Shifter (GTO or Mustang or something) was willing to pay the asking price too. The guy in the next booth leaned over in the middle of my negotiation and said he wanted it...didn't have any cash at the time but was betting on a sale...then he cold pay up! I was miffed but ended up finding a vintage Caddy Air Cleaner I needed for my hot rod...it was a Sweet deal and I wouldn't have been able to buy it if I got the pedal car so it kinda worked out....

Hmmmmm, thinking about how things worked out, suddenly my story doesn't apply...sorry - lol

Yeah, that happened to me too. Called dibs only to have an sold to someone else....I called him on it and he apologized - all was cool
 

corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
Feb 11, 2012
1,450
Burbank, United States
I always laugh at buyers who think they can dictate the rules to the person who actually owns the piece in question.

my stuff, my rules.

maybe people who feel hurt buying old items from individual sellers should only buy news stuff at the store.
I think it's fine to sell your stuff to who you want to exactly as you say ... on your own site maybe. But remember, this is a public forum and there should be rules. Sell your stuff on eBay and make your own rules there and see how it works out for ya.

Holy crap ..... who buys new stuff from stores these days!!!! ( well ... except tires we have to race on at the Velodrome! )
 

corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
Feb 11, 2012
1,450
Burbank, United States
----I clearly explained the situation regarding the bicycle you were interested in. I could not have explained it more clearly and you're still
going on about this? I kept my word to the 1st person who showed interest in the bicycle and asked if they could think about it for
the day. I agreed! Explaining that I was going to post it just in case they decided to pass, the buyer, also a collector
friend, then contacted me directly to go forward with the purchase. It's really that simple. I feel I treat people very fairly and situations
like this are unpleasant for all involved especially when drama drags out for no reason other than sour grapes. I have missed a
ton of deals on the Cabe I "thought" I was first in line for. Something else will come along that you will enjoy as much hopefully..
and all the best to you for holidays my friend.
It's also something that happened a year ago my friend that reminded me of these situations. Never heard of you anyway as I've never done business with you. I don't think you deal in Antique Track Racing equipment like I do. I've been dealing in Track Racing for 40 years and never heard of you ( sorry )

I think if someone posts on a For Sale forum, then follow some simple rules for everyone. It shouldn't be posted on that Forum if it's really not for sale.

We're talking about basic rules to a forum here by the way ..... not kindergarten class "make my own rules".... because it's my stuff! Enjoy your holiday also.
 
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ranman

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Apr 30, 2014
755
Harrisonville, Mo.
Honesty is the best policy.
Recently came to an agreement on some parts less than my listing price. An hour later a respected member of the cabe offered full price for one of the items. I let him know he was second in line and if the original deal with the first interested party fell through he was next in line.
When I sell parts I do it fairly. I don’t wish to sell my integrity.
 

mr.cycleplane

I live for the CABE
Sep 9, 2017
1,011
Auburn, California
Honesty and fairness...there ya go!

Honesty is the best policy.
Recently came to an agreement on some parts less than my listing price. An hour later a respected member of the cabe offered full price for one of the items. I let him know he was second in line and if the original deal with the first interested party fell through he was next in line.
When I sell parts I do it fairly. I don’t wish to sell my integrity.
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