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Wartime Schwinn New World Bikes - We Know You Have Them - Tell Us About Them!!
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Miq
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Thanks @onecatahula ! The new pics are great too. Love seeing all those beautiful blackout parts up close!
SirMike1983
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
H44907 was a standard frame, single speed New World that sold at Copake in 2019 for $70.80. I do not own this bike and I did not bid on it. I had pictures of it in a folder on my desktop and it dawned on me to check to see if this was ever added to the list. Someone got a decent deal on the bike. The rear fender braces look like Wald type replacements. The front is a flat bar of some sort, which given the way it is bent into place, is probably too long and a replacement as well. But if you can locate a rider saddle and some braces for the bike, a good deal.
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Miq
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Some more pics from the 2019 Copake Auction H44907 bike @SirMike1983 mentioned.
I added it to the list along with the K serial green step thru from @onecatahula . Thanks again Pete for all the wonderful pics you added. Some of the best pics we have of blackout parts on a Victory bike. This thread was started to document exactly this kind of wartime bike!
I added it to the list along with the K serial green step thru from @onecatahula . Thanks again Pete for all the wonderful pics you added. Some of the best pics we have of blackout parts on a Victory bike. This thread was started to document exactly this kind of wartime bike!
Spacecowboy
Look Ma, No Hands!
Took a slow roll group spin on my new world w1m. Swapped in some torrington swept back bars, a long spring seat and hub shiners.
I noticed the catalogs show a different stem for the one speed than the flip over/flip back one I have. They call it a wald number 3. Looking around for a pic on that or information. It looks like a long varsity stem in the drawing but I keep finding a "prewar motorbike" with no drop.
The bike rolled great and I actually pedaled about a third less than than the wallyworld bikes and coasted alot more.
I noticed the catalogs show a different stem for the one speed than the flip over/flip back one I have. They call it a wald number 3. Looking around for a pic on that or information. It looks like a long varsity stem in the drawing but I keep finding a "prewar motorbike" with no drop.
The bike rolled great and I actually pedaled about a third less than than the wallyworld bikes and coasted alot more.
WillWork4Parts
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Your description makes me want to call these the "Linda Blair" stem now...or maybe "the Exorcist." Lol
Which other stem are you talking about? I think I've only seen the "Linda Blair" in blackout.
These 2 pics are early post war stems.
Not sure about the double adjustable stem being on a New World. This one is on a 49 Continental. It's simply the Motorbike stem top flipped over on the post.
Spacecowboy
Look Ma, No Hands!
Sorry bout that, the flip back term was something I might have made up or heard, in reference to the the "Linda blair" one. Think I saw the black out version in this thread a couple of posts ago on a green new world. The "Linda blair" one is stock on the ladies model and the three speed. The adjustable is as always avaliable at additional cost.
The "motorbike" one is the 20-30s stem with a flat angle, no 20 degree drop, bolt in front. The adjustable one appears on model 707-1 in the prewar Era then also gets used on the continental in postwar Era. The adjustable one seems to be the only one that has the angle, and it's not stock on the w1m. I simply don't see anything like the varsity drop stem in steel before 1970ish. They figured it out somewhere between high end racing bikes and mass consumer 10 speeds.
Contrasting the prewar illustrations with the later one speed new world in 41-42 my logical guess is that they used that earlier one on the w1m. it just makes financial and supply-wise sense, its what they had on hand. The early illustrations for the racer also shows a similar one piece stem where the paramount has the slider one.
Attaching a pic of a one that is similar to what i thought was the older 30s style. I'm sure this one is postwar tho. Have seen tge prewar ones have the binder bolt directly in front and not under.
The "motorbike" one is the 20-30s stem with a flat angle, no 20 degree drop, bolt in front. The adjustable one appears on model 707-1 in the prewar Era then also gets used on the continental in postwar Era. The adjustable one seems to be the only one that has the angle, and it's not stock on the w1m. I simply don't see anything like the varsity drop stem in steel before 1970ish. They figured it out somewhere between high end racing bikes and mass consumer 10 speeds.
Contrasting the prewar illustrations with the later one speed new world in 41-42 my logical guess is that they used that earlier one on the w1m. it just makes financial and supply-wise sense, its what they had on hand. The early illustrations for the racer also shows a similar one piece stem where the paramount has the slider one.
Attaching a pic of a one that is similar to what i thought was the older 30s style. I'm sure this one is postwar tho. Have seen tge prewar ones have the binder bolt directly in front and not under.
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Spacecowboy
Look Ma, No Hands!
Apologies in advance for going on about a handlebar stem.
I found one that was labeled toc on over at Ecargobay and that is a similar 20 degree drop to the varsity. Found my own answer. Also noted that a 39 racer came with the razorback stem.
The one I put a pic of in my last post had a patent number on the wedge part. It turns out that part was from another stem. The one I call the "flip back" or aka the Linda blair referenced earlier. I didn't realize the wedge part had started before the postwar period.
The number is 2383273A filed by Ewald Pawsat, for aka Wald on May 26, 1944. Theres about 65 different patents of his(thiers?) to browse through. I'd normally post the link to the patent, but I think the patent illustration will suffice for the wartime thread.
The original "flip back" design was patented in 1936.
I found one that was labeled toc on over at Ecargobay and that is a similar 20 degree drop to the varsity. Found my own answer. Also noted that a 39 racer came with the razorback stem.
The one I put a pic of in my last post had a patent number on the wedge part. It turns out that part was from another stem. The one I call the "flip back" or aka the Linda blair referenced earlier. I didn't realize the wedge part had started before the postwar period.
The number is 2383273A filed by Ewald Pawsat, for aka Wald on May 26, 1944. Theres about 65 different patents of his(thiers?) to browse through. I'd normally post the link to the patent, but I think the patent illustration will suffice for the wartime thread.
The original "flip back" design was patented in 1936.
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SirMike1983
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
F091284 is a post-war black New World for sale on eBay. Several parts have been swapped out, including the valuable Schwinn brake levers. Decals and paint are in decent condition, and the downtube decal is particularly well-preserved. Pedals have been swapped. One speed model. If you have brake levers and pedals, it would not take much to correct the bike to something pretty good. Standard frame size men's. Black paint.
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