Just acquired this bike. Thinking a Norman made according to number on seat tube. Serial # is 9126NK. No name/date on the coaster hub. Maybe a ‘59? Currently covered in grime but from the pictures shows a nice red color. Seat is a Wrights. Tires are Bates Dunlop. Any help with dating and manufacturer would be appreciated. I know there are some British made experts. Thank you.
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juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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1959 about the final year for "Norman Normans"
the frame's lugs, bottom bracket shell & other bits appear to be from Brampton
there will be raised numbers on the underside of the bottom bracket shell which indicate the model of the shell from Brampton (not a serial)
member @Oilit has posted regarding an example he has here -
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he shall be along anon with some assistance of a solid nature
thank you for sharing this very good find!
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1959 about the final year for "Norman Normans"
the frame's lugs, bottom bracket shell & other bits appear to be from Brampton
there will be raised numbers on the underside of the bottom bracket shell which indicate the model of the shell from Brampton (not a serial)
member @Oilit has posted regarding an example he has here -
1959 Norman-Built Western Flyer Cantilever | International Bicycles
I posted about going to pick up this bike here: https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/when-you-know-youve-got-it-bad.222234/ But this thread is on the bike itself, so this is probably the more appropriate section. I had the handlebars out today to adjust the head set bearings and took some detail...
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he shall be along anon with some assistance of a solid nature
thank you for sharing this very good find!
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Oilit
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
With that chainguard, my first thought was German, but I can see the "Made in England" decal on the downtube under the tank. There was a company called Raynal that made bikes with that chain guard, and there's one on Worthpoint with the frame like yours, but who or what "Raynal" was is beyond me.
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juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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the President marque shown in the link by @Oilit above is one belonging to the Bert Scheuer company of New York
they launched in 1931 and had cycles contract manufactured in Britain, Germany, Holland & Japan
another badge they owned is that of Executive
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Raynal -
launched in 1914 as a manufacturer of motorcycles
merged in 1937 with Dunford & Elliot (DUNELT)
Raynal Manufacturing Co. located at 125 Pritchett Street, Birmingham & 41-43 Fleet Street, Birmingham
purchased in 1947 by an entity termed British Plaster Board
cessation of production recorded in 1950
perhaps name revived by DUNELT to produce the bicycles discussed
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found a statement that BCC had relit the Raynal lamp about 1955-1956
the prominent "fin" on the chainguard places the cycle in that era when automobiles were styled with "fins"
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the President marque shown in the link by @Oilit above is one belonging to the Bert Scheuer company of New York
they launched in 1931 and had cycles contract manufactured in Britain, Germany, Holland & Japan
another badge they owned is that of Executive
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Raynal -
launched in 1914 as a manufacturer of motorcycles
merged in 1937 with Dunford & Elliot (DUNELT)
Raynal Manufacturing Co. located at 125 Pritchett Street, Birmingham & 41-43 Fleet Street, Birmingham
purchased in 1947 by an entity termed British Plaster Board
cessation of production recorded in 1950
perhaps name revived by DUNELT to produce the bicycles discussed
Edit:
found a statement that BCC had relit the Raynal lamp about 1955-1956
the prominent "fin" on the chainguard places the cycle in that era when automobiles were styled with "fins"
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Oilit
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
It makes sense that the BCC restarted this brand. The few that I've seen look right for that time and place (late '50's Birmingham). Good information, thank you!
juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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any marking on arm?
if hub a F&S product the letter A would indicate a date of 1958 which would fit right in
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any marking on arm?
if hub a F&S product the letter A would indicate a date of 1958 which would fit right in
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