1930s-40s Excelsior

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Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,067
Los Angeles, CA, USA
MCI head badge and a 6-H DP Harris New York City Rollfast chain ring; Snyder bought into the Excelsior company in the early 1930’s. If the chain ring has 24 teeth, it may have been swapped for a 26. Rollfast called theirs a “sport motobike”.
 
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Tyberius

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 13, 2018
53
46
Annapolis MD
“Tanks” for the info everyone. Looks like I have a new set of tires and a couple of missing parts to source. I will post to the wanted page too but if anyone has a set of tanks for this I would be interested.
 
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fordmike65

Riding a '37 Colson Imperial
Mar 4, 2012
20,174
East Los
“Tanks” for the info everyone. Looks like I have a new set of tires and a couple of missing parts to source. I will post to the wanted page too but if anyone has a set of tanks for this I would be interested.
I highly doubt this came equipped with a tank since not many of these did. It would be near impossible to find one that matches, so in my opinion it would take away from this wonderful survivor. I don't see any witness marks from tank straps either. After a full service, new tires and a very light cleaning it'll make a great original rider.:cool:
 

rustjunkie

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Jul 11, 2012
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looks 1940 to me:
fenders & braces
wheels appear orig, and hub has 1940s brake arm
saddle design is 1940+, although they were made into the 1950s so could be a replacement.
serial #
 
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Tyberius

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 13, 2018
53
46
Annapolis MD
Copy that. You don’t think I should “restroy” it with a rattle can paint job? :) just kidding.
 
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Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,067
Los Angeles, CA, USA
How many head badge holes are there, 4; (might be easier to see on a real computer)? The accent dart paint looks like the more deluxe style, often furnished with "Rollfast" head badges, in the greater "Rollfast" product line by DP Harris. The white behind the head badge makes it look like the Excelsior badge has been there for quite some while. Does the seat mast tube (front) have any additional labelling?
 

Tyberius

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 13, 2018
53
46
Annapolis MD
How many head badge holes are there, 4; (might be easier to see on a real computer)? The accent dart paint looks like the more deluxe style, often furnished with "Rollfast" head badges, in the greater "Rollfast" product line by DP Harris. The white behind the head badge makes it look like the Excelsior badge has been there for quite some while. Does the seat mast tube (front) have any additional labelling?
2 holes, no additional markings or numbers on the seat tube.
How many head badge holes are there, 4; (might be easier to see on a real computer)? The accent dart paint looks like the more deluxe style, often furnished with "Rollfast" head badges, in the greater "Rollfast" product line by DP Harris. The white behind the head badge makes it look like the Excelsior badge has been there for quite some while. Does the seat mast tube (front) have any additional labelling?
Sorry for slow reply. 2 hole badge, nothing else on seat tube except part of this decal (see photo).

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Archie Sturmer

I live for the CABE
Jun 13, 2018
1,067
Los Angeles, CA, USA
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Looks like the Rollfast Model, and in a darker Burgundy Red color.
http://www.nostalgic.net/bicycle194/picture660
Similar to the Deluxe, (less tank).
http://www.nostalgic.net/bicycle194
Also, looks like a New York badge was swapped-out for the Indiana (or Indonesian?) head badge.
Headbadge 4-H Rollfast.jpg Excelsior 11.jpg
Is a probably good thing that extra holes were not drilled into the head badge, to try to fit the existing holes in the frame.
 
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Tyberius

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 13, 2018
53
46
Annapolis MD
Almost back together...so the 2nd and 3rd pictures convince me that this was not re-badged. I took apart the bottom bracket at it was a real hodge podge of parts. 2 different bearing manufacturers. I'm thinking that the chainring and possibly crank might not be original. If it isn't a Harris bicycle, what kind of chain ring would this have had? I have a period-correct but possibly not model correct lower end in the mail to me but I only want to re-asseble this once.

there was an interesting earlier discussion the history of Excelsior of Michigan City, Indiana below:


Anyway, learned opinions always appreciated...T

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John G04

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Oct 17, 2016
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Almost back together...so the 2nd and 3rd pictures convince me that this was not re-badged. I took apart the bottom bracket at it was a real hodge podge of parts. 2 different bearing manufacturers. I'm thinking that the chainring and possibly crank might not be original. If it isn't a Harris bicycle, what kind of chain ring would this have had? I have a period-correct but possibly not model correct lower end in the mail to me but I only want to re-asseble this once.

there was an interesting earlier discussion the history of Excelsior of Michigan City, Indiana below:


Anyway, learned opinions always appreciated...T

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Looks great!
 

Tyberius

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 13, 2018
53
46
Annapolis MD
Finally back together. Went for the shakeout cruise this afternoon- there was some technical difficulties on the ride back where the rear hub innards tried to unscrew themselves but I will sort that out. Anyway, will be on the lookout for a few more period accessories and a drop stand for less than a Ben Franklin but overall pretty happy with it and it didn’t fall into the water so...win.

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Tyberius

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 13, 2018
53
46
Annapolis MD
Finally back together. Went for the shakeout cruise this afternoon- there was some technical difficulties on the ride back where the rear hub innards tried to unscrew themselves but I will sort that out. Anyway, will be on the lookout for a few more period accessories and a drop stand for less than a Ben Franklin but overall pretty happy with it and it didn’t fall into the water so...win.

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fordmike65

Riding a '37 Colson Imperial
Mar 4, 2012
20,174
East Los
Oh yeah....she's looking smooth as butta. Love that Excelsior badge:cool:
 
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