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1976 Schwinn Heavy Duti

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With few exceptions the big auto makers would bring out the new models end of Sept, Oct1. You could count on it, hey lets go see whats on the sales floor.

I think its been determined many times over the SN stamp date has nothing to do with the frame build date, just the date it was stamped.

I know I've said it before but just like big auto, there had to be a week where Schwinn said "this starts the new year!"
Whether it was parts, logistics, taxes or to catch Christmas sales with a "new model".
Someone had to be on the ball with flyers/ads and parts to match the new model.

JMO

I think this thread is giving us a good idea of the time the next year model production began. A broader search range of product info would include the Typhoon and Hollywood since they also had the new chain guard contrary to what the brochure depicts.
 
With few exceptions the big auto makers would bring out the new models end of Sept, Oct1. You could count on it, hey lets go see whats on the sales floor.

I think its been determined many times over the SN stamp date has nothing to do with the frame build date, just the date it was stamped.

I know I've said it before but just like big auto, there had to be a week where Schwinn said "this starts the new year!"
Whether it was parts, logistics, taxes or to catch Christmas sales with a "new model".
Someone had to be on the ball with flyers/ads and parts to match the new model.

JMO
1976 starts the advent of the Head Badge with 4-digit number build date, this gives an even closer date to new model changes.
The Schwinn advertisement department was sure to use their disclaimer ... NOTE: Prices and Specifications are subject to change without notice, on about every page they had bicycle photos.
I also have wondered how many bicycles of one model Schwinn built in a day?
 
1976 starts the advent of the Head Badge with 4-digit number build date, this gives an even closer date to new model changes.
The Schwinn advertisement department was sure to use their disclaimer ... NOTE: Prices and Specifications are subject to change without notice, on about every page they had bicycle photos.
I also have wondered how many bicycles of one model Schwinn built in a day?

True, but Schwinn was a well oiled machine. From being part of designing the electro forging machine, bringing in raw steel and shaping into the tubes that were built into frames. Making/stamping rims, chroming, painting, assembling.
There had to be more then throwing a dart at a callender to determine year change. There had to be a window and someone had to know when they wanted them to hit the sales floor.
 
I was thinking I have a nice example near me, but the price and the owner are as high as a kite! Can't tell if it's an 81 model(brake arm) or a 77 model(iffy badge picture). No drive side pictures either...

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Sorry, forgot the most important part, the link. https://www.facebook.com/share/i52q5NVNyG59mGfA/?mibextid=kL3p88
If I’m selling a bike for that price, I’m going to at least take it down from the wall and get better pictures.
 
1976 starts the advent of the Head Badge with 4-digit number build date, this gives an even closer date to new model changes.
The Schwinn advertisement department was sure to use their disclaimer ... NOTE: Prices and Specifications are subject to change without notice, on about every page they had bicycle photos.
I also have wondered how many bicycles of one model Schwinn built in a day?
From all the assembly line pictures that I've seen, they give you the impression that they built maybe one model type per day. These were all diamond frame lightweights going down the line. How could you stock all the parts for multiple models from Sting Rays to multi-geared models. If they used multiple assembly lines, then stocking the assembly lines with the correct parts wouldn't be an issue. I have never come across any detailed information on the actual assembly details. Then there's the job of getting the daily production boxed up and the correct labeling of the boxes. Using the numbers of serial stamp parts during the times where they logged the daily serial stampings might give you a broad idea of how many bikes per day they built.
 
That's pure speculation. You're guessing by using a customer brochure that you have no idea of when it was compiled, published and distributed.

It is not speculation. The catalogs were printed, distributed to the dealers, then to the customers. All of this took time, so it only stands to reason it was done MONTHS before the beginning of the following model year! IE: the start of a 77 catalog was done months before it was issued, and in the shops and the end of the preceding year Nov/Dec. So, once again, for the Spitfire to be in the 77 catalog, it would have already been on the drawing board for production in 76 before those other bikes that we can't mention were allegedly built.........!

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All of the HD models used the mag sprocket.

Why does the 77 catalog still show the wingtip guard on all the middleweights?

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So, now you have your answer to your question of why does the '77 catalog still show the wingtip guard on all the middleweights?
These are Stock photos not actual production bicycles, display only, we now know that the '77 bicycles came with the "new" chain guard not the ones shown in that brochure and the same goes for the '77 Spitfire, Stock photo not the actual production bicycle.
Bottom of each page ... NOTE: Prices and specifications subject to change without notice.

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So, now you have your answer to your question of why does the '77 catalog still show the wingtip guard on all the middleweights?
These are Stock photos not actual production bicycles, display only, we now know that the '77 bicycles came with the "new" chain guard not the ones shown in that brochure and the same goes for the '77 Spitfire, Stock photo not the actual production bicycle.
Bottom of each page ... NOTE: Prices and specifications subject to change without notice.

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I knew the answer to the question when I asked it.......LOL

These images are of actual bikes that Schwinn provided for the photographer. Did Schwinn have their own inhouse photographer and printing facility?

Another question is why does the Spitfire have the new style guard, and the 3 other middleweights have the wing tip guards? And why is the Spitfire in a catalog that was mocked up, printed, and issued to the dealers before some of those other bikes we can't mention were allegedly built at the Schwinn factory?????? 🤔
 
Here is a 77 HD for a $100 bucks if anyone is close to this buyer?

 
From all the assembly line pictures that I've seen, they give you the impression that they built maybe one model type per day. These were all diamond frame lightweights going down the line. How could you stock all the parts for multiple models from Sting Rays to multi-geared models. If they used multiple assembly lines, then stocking the assembly lines with the correct parts wouldn't be an issue. I have never come across any detailed information on the actual assembly details. Then there's the job of getting the daily production boxed up and the correct labeling of the boxes. Using the numbers of serial stamp parts during the times where they logged the daily serial stampings might give you a broad idea of how many bikes per day they built.

The daily production numbers were always adjusted to demand, and OE parts availability. One Million units, divided by 260 working days per year is an average of 3800 bicycles per day during the peak production years.

The Bicycles "were built to the dealer orders". The lead time varied between three to four weeks from the time the order was placed with the Regional Sales Company, then forwarded to the Schwinn Chicago factory before they were built. The dealer received an order confirmation postcard, and the actual production date was never more than a day of two off, early, or late. Tom Griffin was the Sales Manager at SSW in the City of Industry, CA. He collected the orders and tried his best to consolidate them into orders going to the geographic same areas if they were not large enough (LTL) for an entire Truck Trailer, or Rail Car shipment. This service was to help dealers reduce and control their shipping costs. Remember that the Schwinn suggested retail prices were only $3.00 per bicycle higher in Zone 3 (west coast).

Jack Smith was the Chicago factory order manager, and he received the orders from Tom Griffin. Jack's job was to schedule the orders and place them in a shipping rotation. His department personnel looked at the orders and counted how many 24" Varsity frames would be needed "three weeks from today" when that particular dealer order rolled down the assembly line. Yes, they had to know how many Sunset Orange, Kool Lemon, Campus Green 24" Varsity frames were needed on the scheduled production day. Scheduling all of this had to be a monumental task, and it was all done with pen and paper, no laptops and app's like we would do today. They had some screw-ups, but overall, it ran VERY SMOOTH all considering.

My families two Schwinn dealerships were located in the desert of Arizona. We ordered "every Chicago built Schwinn" directly from the factory, because they offered us the option of adding Thorn Resistant inner tubes on a "requested basis" to each order. This saved us having to remove the standard inner tubes and replacing them with Thorn Resistant inner tubes. This option saved us labor and parts cost. We almost never bought a "Chicago Built Schwinn" from the Regional Sales Company because the bikes cost us more, the freight from Los Angles to Phoenix was higher than the Rail Car ($2.40 per bike) freight from Chicago to Phoenix. But the main reason was all of the warehouse bikes had standard tubes that needed to be changed over.

Think about it, in order for Schwinn to fill our factory order, AND offer us the option of having Thorn Resistant tubes in every bicycle they would have to have a huge warehouse with the same bicycle, in the same color, in the same frame size, and the only difference would be Thorn Resistant inner tubes. The only way this would be possible would be to build the bicycles "as ordered" and the tubes substituted. I'm sure a few models were exceptions, like Tandems, Tri Bikes, Unicycles, Cycle Trucks, etc. The main "Chicago Built" bicycles that a dealer ordered, 99% of what a dealer actually sold were "built to order". The box "multi part carbon" shipping label was "the first thing printed", well before the first part of the bicycle was assembled. The bicycle began with the shipping label that showed everything about the bicycle. A 120-9 LE, was a 20" frame size, 27" wheel size, Men's frame, in Kool Lemon color ten speed Varsity. If the number was a 220-9 LE it was the same thing but with the optional chrome fenders installed. The assembly line worker looked at the tag going down the assembly line and hung the correct parts on it. The only reason that production date numbers are even close (axle set, or crank stamps) is that the flow of parts at the assembly line was constant. Nothing set for very long before it was attached to a frame going down the line.

If the factory received an order for the regional warehouse, they might build a couple of hundred Yellow 22" framed Varsity's "all in one row". But these bicycles were handled just like the dealer orders, they came off of the assembly line, went directly into a box, set on a dolly, rolled over to a waiting Rail Car, or Truck Trailer for immediate shipment to SSW City of Industry, SSMW Elk Grove, SSS Atlanta, or SSE in New Jersey. As far as the Schwinn factory was concerned, the Regional Sales Companies were just another customer that they shipped bicycles to. If you saw a photo of a regional warehouse order going down the assembly line, it would give you a very different view of how the order/building/shipping system actually worked. I do believe they used a different, small assembly line for exercisers. The last time I saw the assembly line in operation was about 1959, before the exerciser thing got into full swing, so that's my best recollection.

John
 
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