1976 Schwinn Heavy Duti

[koolbikes]

All of the HD models used the mag sprocket.

Why does the 77 catalog still show the wingtip guard on all the middleweights?

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All the 1977 Schwinn Heavy Duti bicycles that I have seen came with the "New" style chain guard ...
And then there is that Schwinn disclaimer ... NOTE: Prices and Specifications subject to change without notice.

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

All the 1977 Schwinn Heavy Duti bicycles that I have seen came with the "New" style chain guard ...
And then there is that Schwinn disclaimer ... NOTE: Prices and Specifications subject to change without notice.

Catalog , schmatalog you are showing us actual bikes. Your example of other models having the same change at generally the same time is more informative then the catalogs and shows what was going on in real time.

 

[WillWork4Parts]

Yeah, this has definitely turned into a case where I don't trust the consumer catalog. I should have been more clear in my previous reply, OEM mixing of guards in the consumer catalogs is what gets me.
This is another deal where Schwinn had the capabilities and dies to make this chain guard before it actually rolled out in late 76.

The stingrays had the guard with the notch back and dip in the front in 1975.

76 wasn't exactly a year for collectors to gravitate to except for the bicentennial bikes, nor were the lowly Typhoon or Heavy Duti models very sought after in any year, so I haven't had many on my stand. It seems like now that I'm looking for examples, they're not popping up anymore. No, that doesn't mean they are rare, people just don't care about them as much as the older bikes.
I messaged a guy about pictures of serial and badge numbers on a Marketplace bike, but haven't heard anything back. When I do find some late 76 examples, I'll try and post them here.

In the meantime, here are some examples of all the Schwinn chain guard variations that existed a few years later in 79. The different bracketry may help identify a fraud.

 

[koolbikes]

The wingtip/flared chain guard with safety lip was very short lived, quite amazing that they would produce it and only use it for a couple years, then change to the "New" version.

 

[Xlobsterman]

All the 1977 Schwinn Heavy Duti bicycles that I have seen came with the "New" style chain guard ...
And then there is that Schwinn disclaimer ... NOTE: Prices and Specifications subject to change without notice.

This fallacy that you keep trying to perpetuate concerning the "California Cruiser" having multiple configurations for a bike that was only produced for a few months at best is amusing! Just because one bike model has certain parts on it, is in no way an indicator that other models used those same parts during that same time period.

You have stated many times in the past that Schwinn had just used what they had on hand at the time they built the bikes in question. IE: California Cruisers with the clover leaf sprocket instead of the Mag Sprocket. When the fact is that the Mag Sprockets were used on multiple middleweight bikes during that same time period. If your theory had any validity, then we would see the Typhoon, Hollywood, and Heavy Duti models during that same time period with clover leaf sprockets if there was a shortage of inventory as you speculate, and Schwinn just used what was available in a parts bin!

Most of us know, and acknowledge that the catalog pictures were taken months prior to the catalogs being issued. These catalogs were available to the dealers late in the preceding model year. IE a 77 catalog was printed and in the shops for the Christmas season in 76. So we have a 77 catalog showing a Spitfire with a mag sprocket, from a catalog picture that was most likely taken the middle of 76 at the latest for the printing of a 77 catalog. The 77 catalog clearly shows a Spitfire with the "Mag Sprocket". So if Schwinn was already changing the name to the "Spitfire" in the middle of the 76 model year, it just does not make any rational sense that they would still produce "California Cruisers" late in 76 regardless of what parts, and decals were used! And we have seen the early model Spitfires pictures posted that had the mag sprockets!

 

[koolbikes]

This fallacy that you keep trying to perpetuate concerning the "California Cruiser" having multiple configurations for a bike that was only produced for a few months at best is amusing! Just because one bike model has certain parts on it, is in no way an indicator that other models used those same parts during that same time period.

You have stated many times in the past that Schwinn had just used what they had on hand at the time they built the bikes in question. IE: California Cruisers with the clover leaf sprocket instead of the Mag Sprocket. When the fact is that the Mag Sprockets were used on multiple middleweight bikes during that same time period. If your theory had any validity, then we would see the Typhoon, Hollywood, and Heavy Duti models during that same time period with clover leaf sprockets if there was a shortage of inventory as you speculate, and Schwinn just used what was available in a parts bin!

Most of us know, and acknowledge that the catalog pictures were taken months prior to the catalogs being issued. These catalogs were available to the dealers late in the preceding model year. IE a 77 catalog was printed and in the shops for the Christmas season in 76. So we have a 77 catalog showing a Spitfire with a mag sprocket, from a catalog picture that was most likely taken the middle of 76 at the latest for the printing of a 77 catalog. The 77 catalog clearly shows a Spitfire with the "Mag Sprocket". So if Schwinn was already changing the name to the "Spitfire" in the middle of the 76 model year, it just does not make any rational sense that they would still produce "California Cruisers" late in 76 regardless of what parts, and decals were used! And we have seen the early model Spitfires pictures posted that had the mag sprockets!

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Xlobserman, I am glad that you are amused but this tread is about the 1976 Schwinn Heavy Duti and its corresponding serial numbers and badge numbers with its late model parts changes to the introduction of the 1977 Schwinn Heavy Duti model.
But, this model was built at exactly the same time the Schwinn "California Cruiser" and as you stated in the "CC" tread that "The Heavy Duti is a closer model to the "CC" except for the color and the wheelset .....!".
This made me think about the Heavy Duti model and until yesterday after finding this late model Heavy Duti with the 1976 corresponding serial numbers and badge numbers with the "New" chain guard change for 1977 that this is the closest model to the "CC".
I would rather keep the conversation of the "California Cruiser" in that tread, this tread is about the 1976 Schwinn Heavy Duti model.

 

[Xlobsterman]

Xlobserman, I am glad that you are amused but this tread is about the 1976 Schwinn Heavy Duti and its corresponding serial numbers and badge numbers with its late model parts changes to the introduction of the 1977 Schwinn Heavy Duti model.
But, this model was built at exactly the same time the Schwinn "California Cruiser" and as you stated in the "CC" tread that "The Heavy Duti is a closer model to the "CC" except for the color and the wheelset .....!".
This made me think about the Heavy Duti model and until yesterday after finding this late model Heavy Duti with the 1976 corresponding serial numbers and badge numbers with the "New" chain guard change for 1977 that this is the closest model to the "CC".

I would rather keep the conversation of the "California Cruiser" in that tread, this tread is about the 1976 Schwinn Heavy Duti model.

Well if you want to keep this thread about the HD, then you should NOT have compared it to the California Cruiser in your original posting!

So you want to make a whole message thread about when Schwinn changed the style of chain guard on the Heavy Duti????? LOL If so, I think you have accomplished that. I guess we can all agree Schwinn changed the chain guard on the HD for the 77 model year! End of discussion............

BTW, the bike you posted the pic of is a 77 model made in the end of 76.

 

[koolbikes]

Well if you want to keep this thread about the HD, then you should NOT have compared it to the California Cruiser in your original posting!

So you want to make a whole message thread about when Schwinn changed the style of chain guard on the Heavy Duti????? LOL If so, I think you have accomplished that. I guess we can all agree Schwinn changed the chain guard on the HD for the 77 model year! End of discussion............

BTW, the bike you posted the pic of is a 77 model made in the end of 76.

If Schwinn had made the change for the late model Heavy Duti, why would they have not made the same change for the "CC"?

 

[Xlobsterman]

If Schwinn had made the change for the late model Heavy Duti, why would they have not made the same change for the "CC"?

NO, because the CC was no longer in production. And as I pointed out in my previous post, they were already coming out with the Spitfire by then!

 

[koolbikes]

NO, because the CC was no longer in production. And as I pointed out in my previous post, they were already coming out with the Spitfire by then!

The Schwinn Spitfire was in 1977, I've never seen a late dated 1976 Spitfire, only "CC's".