Cleveland Welding S/N Project...See Page 58 Post 576 for chart

[Sportyworty]

A1024 is a 17” frame and does not seem to fit into the timeline with regards to features. The bottom bracket offset is there but the lower cross bar does not extend to the head tube. Where did they reduce the frame from 19 to 17. On the 1941 16” Schwinn DX the top of the seat post is almost flush. The 17” Roadmaster here has an extended seat post same as a 19?
What am I missing here in order to confirm if this is in fact a 35’ production CWC?

 

[Archie Sturmer]

A1024 is a 17” frame and does not seem to fit into the timeline with regards to features. The bottom bracket offset is there but the lower cross bar does not extend to the head tube. Where did they reduce the frame from 19 to 17. On the 1941 16” Schwinn DX the top of the seat post is almost flush. The 17” Roadmaster here has an extended seat post same as a 19?
What am I missing here in order to confirm if this is in fact a 35’ production CWC?

Not sure if it is fair to compare the features changed over time with a shorter frame.

I believe that the early frames described by serial numbers and the truss tube height and intersections, might not have even applied to the shorter frames?

 

[Sportyworty]

The bike is already known to the Cabe apparently.
The prior owner (ColsonTwinbar) introduced the serial on page 3 of this thread July 2008. This was pre date chart and Phil registered it but never commented.

Cleveland Welding S/N Project...See Page 58 Post 576 for chart | Classic Balloon Tire Bicycles 1933-1965

Closest estimate is '42, mens standard, the latest would be right after the war. With the exception of the drop stand ears, that bike is pure '42.

thecabe.com

A month prior to the above Serial number post the bike was in fact evaluated by Phil when it was purchased by the prior owner off EBay May 2008.
I am very pleased to have found these interactions. It’s things like this that can keep ya enthused !

35' Cleveland Welding Clipper | General Discussion About Old Bicycles

I just bought this off of ebay, I haven't received it yet. But can anyone tell me more about it? Original Paint design or any parts that arn't right. It looks to be all original exept the kickstand and maybe the chainguard.

thecabe.com

If the fenders are original it was well optioned. Green bike under there too !
ok I’m done had to know

 

[CarterAutoMotive]

1936 CWC Roadmaster DBR
'X4584' serial number with a sideways 2 before it. F3 date code Morrow rear hub.
Bike has narrow gap offset rear stays at BB, narrow gap between top bars, drop stand ears, smooth seat post clamp, straight down tube, straight fender stays, double pinstripes on the fenders, etc. Basically, nothing out of the ordinary for a '36 as far as I am aware.

 

[CarterAutoMotive]

1937 Ridewell-badged DBR.
B50506 serial, sideways 21 next to it.
Braced drop stand, Wald #3 stem, no evidence of any lights/reflectors/etc. on either fender. New Departure front hub, G2 date code Morrow rear hub.

 

[CarterAutoMotive]

Well, I posted the last two on this thread, may as well add a third.
'41 Roadmaster, K34321 serial, sideways 95 after the serial. Original paint, I believe all the parts are original to the bike as well except the tires and grips I put on it, and the Troxel seat that replaced the rusty Lobdell that was on it. Oh, and a handful of spokes that were broken that got replaced.
K4 date code Morrow rear hub, Torrington bars and pedals, etc.
Last 4 pictures are as found, with 2 showing the tank insides.

 

[elginkid]

Serial F94934, with an additional EC-04, plus a random 1 and part of another character.

 

[Miq]

49 Roadmaster frame and similar period tri-plate fork. Serial J90504 Cw

 

[Dodgerguy62]

1940 Pilot

 

[elginkid]

I’m going to throw this one in here, since there wasn’t prior consensus. Serial E14996. The dropouts are not offset, the fork ends are closed, small paisley chainwheel, rounded, not peaked fenders with double pinstripe.

One suggestion was for a mis-stamped B, which would be very early 1937 construction, but that seems inconsistent with the double pins and the closed fork ends.

Although the wheels look nice with the bike, they’re drop centers, not triple steps, and while they look okay with the bike, I’d say it’s an 99% chance they aren’t the originals. The pinstriping is wider and inconsistent with the rest of the bike, and the color is a little lighter, although not as bright as the original red that this has faded from.