Corbin & New Departure Hub Dating Project - Need everyone's help pre-1933

[Gary Mc]

From 1900 Rice Lewis & Son catalog - New Departure Automatic Coaster & Brake

Bicycle accessories
1900 [catalogue]
Rice Lewis & Son Limited.
Published 1900 by Rice Lewis in Toronto .
Written in English.

Located at: http://archive.org/stream/bicycleaccess00riceuoft#page/26/mode/2up/search/departure

Lists a "New Departure Automatic Coaster & Brake". The Brake arm says:

THE NEW DEPARTURE COASTER HUB & BRAKE
PATENTED
MFD BY P.&F.CORBIN
NEW BRITAIN,CONN,U.S.A.

This hub is almost the same hub as seen in post #52 except the spokes attach different. This model takes straight-pull (or sometimes referred to as button head) spokes.

 

[dfa242]

Here's the hub description in the 1895 Mongormery Ward catalog.

 

[Gary Mc]

Early "New Departure Coaster Brake" on brake arm - no date

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...0001&campid=5335809022&icep_item=160879224752

Definitely not the mythical Model B advertised!!!!!! But it is a truly early New Departure Coaster Brake. This is possible a New Departure Bell Co. "New Departure Coaster Brake". I believe it to be made by New Departure Bell Co as Corbin always put the P.&F. Corbin stamp on theirs and this one does not have Corbin on it anywhere. This could potentially be the second version between the one in Post #53 (NEW DEPARTURE BELL CO BRISTOL CONN. U.S.A AND PAT'D on brake arm) & the Model A. Sold for $511 so someone really wanted it!!!!! More research required. Again, another cast brake arm so it appears New Departure Bell (Manufacturing) may have used cast arms until 1903 then changing to machined with the Model A's.

 

[dfa242]

And this one from the 1897 White Sewing Machine Co - just kind of fun to see what they evolved from.

 

[dfa242]

And from an undated John Hastings, Boston catalog aptly named the Hub King - looks to be 1890s vintage.

 

[Gary Mc]

And this one from the 1897 White Sewing Machine Co - just kind of fun to see what they evolved from.

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dfa242,

Thanks for sharing both posts & please continue sharing anything you find. It is definitely neat to see what they evolved from!!!!!

From what I can tell so far the earliest Coaster Brake model was 2 different 1898 versions by 2 different companies both naming their hubs "New Departure". You can tell I am fascinated by all this as I've been researching & posting results for 3-4 straight days now putting everything else in my life on hold. I started looking at patents last night & I have a lot to look through on Google Patents but it will not happen this weekend.... I also want to see if there was a court case around 1906 forcing Corbin to quit using the "New Departure" name on their hubs.

A lot more to know yet though and I greatly appreciate any help on this. - Gary

 

[Gary Mc]

Updates in POST #1

Just a reminder again, I am continuing to update Post #1 with all new findings......

 

[Motoguzzipaul]

New Departure Duplex

 

[Gary Mc]

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Thanks Motoguzzipaul!!!!!!! Here's the brake arm for the ad on the left, the New Departure Duplex 1903 Model (P&F Corbin)

 

[Gary Mc]

Corbin Duplex, The Corbin Screw Corp., New Britain Conn., U.S.A on brake arm

Cast brake arm:

Corbin Duplex
The Corbin Screw Corp.
New Britain Conn.
U.S.A
PAT'D

Could this be a Model 7 or a Model 8 with a cast brake arm made after 1906????? It is after the change from New Departure Duplex to Corbin Duplex name around 1909 and the 1905-1906 Model 6's were New Departure Duplex.