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Corbin & New Departure Hub Dating Project - Need everyone's help pre-1933

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1904 book; ...History of the House of P. & F. Corbin, MCMIV ...;by John B. Comstock

There was a history written on P.&F. Corbin in 1904 by John Comstock. Starting to look through it to see if I can glean anything on their early days in the bicycle industry. It is at Google Books:

http://books.google.com/books?id=y_...EwAQ#v=onepage&q=corbin screw history&f=false

POST NOTE: Quickly scanned this 105 page book & turned up nothing on bicycles or hubs, it is essentially a history of the first 50 years of the company mainly in the hardware/screw industry. One note is that P.&F.Corbin is found on page 90:

"The greatest need of P & F Corbin in 1902 was increased foundry facilities to provide castings for the enlarged factory Accordingly on September 9th the directors empowered the management to build an iron foundry 60 x 400 feet upon the Annex property on Stanley Street The work was pushed with all the speed possible and a large force of men is now employed in a commodious foundry equipped with the most modern devices.

On May 2 1903 the Corbin Screw Corporation was organized as a subsidiary company of the American Hardware Corporation to take charge of the manufacture of screws and screw products in the screw plants formerly belonging to P & F Corbin and the Russell & Erwin Manufacturing Company"

So we can take from this, that up to May 1903, hubs may have been labeled P.&F. Corbin on the brake arms and beginning in May 1903 or that general timeframe the hubs changed to being labeled Corbin Screw Corp. on the brake arms
 
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Luxlow 1898 Iver Johnson with New Departure Corbin coaster brake

http://luxlow.com/bicycles/llpatina...nson-wood-wheel-single-tube-safety-bike-2200/

THE NEW DEPARTURE COASTER BRAKE & HUB
PATENTED
MF'D BY P&F CORBIN


From the Luxlow website:
"Beautiful Early Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works Bicycle built in Fitchburg Massachusetts with one of the First New Departure Coaster Brake Hubs. The first Iver Johnson Bicycles were made for Lovell Diamond and Sold as Iver Johnson Sporting Goods Lovell Diamond Bicycles Boston Mass. This Wonderfully Preserved Gem appears to be one of Iver’s first self badged Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works Bicycle built in Fitchburg Mass. in 1898. This Bicycle wore Iver Johnson’s own Badge and was marketed solely as a Iver Johnson Bicycle. This Early Iver Could be considered Safety or Early post Safety Era. This Bike has amazing parts including one of the first New Departure Coaster Brakes MFG by P & F Corbin and a Front Roller Brake. The Detail and Craftsmanship of this Iver is quite exquisite with jewelry like detail, a nice beginning for what we would come to be expect from Iver Johnson Bicycles. "

This may be a first year New Departure Coaster Brake & Hub manufactured by Corbin.

NOTE the machined large brake arm on this hub that also goes up covering the side of the hub with the engraved label near the top of the hub on this large machined brake arm. Interesting that this, what may be first year was machined while general thought is that cast versions were the earlier ones. So new question is did the originals have machined arms, followed by cast arms in subsequent years, & then a change back to machined arms???? More food for thought & more to come.......

OK got the pics pulled over, for your viewing pleasure one of the earliest, an:
1898 P.&F. Corbin "New Departure" Coaster Brake Hub from an 1898 Iver Johnson:

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POST NOTE ADDED 11/04/12 @ 1:37 PM EST: This 1899 Ladies Columbia Chainless appears to have the same hub.

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What I found next completely blew my mind after the 1898 P&F Corbin ND.....

What I found next completely blew my mind after finding the pics of the Luxlow 1898 P&F Corbin New Departure. How about a possible:

Possible 1898 NEW DEPARTURE BELL CO BRISTOL CONN. U.S.A AND PAT'D; Note made by New Departure Bell Co. and not P.&F. Corbin!!!!!!!!!!

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NOTE the similarities of this coaster brake arm to those of the early Corbin in that they are cast & similar in design. Who had the patent & who copied????? Appears New Departure Bell Company had the cast coaster brake arm design first!!!!!!

From WorthPoint:

On the hub:
"Brake arm denotes the manufacturer to be NEW DEPARTURE BELL CO BRISTOL CONN. U.S.A AND PAT'D . There is no patent date or other identifiable date on the hub itself but the caged ball bearings carry a patent date of JUNE 14, 1898. The only other markings I noted was the stamped number 20403. That could be a serial number or possible denote a date of manufacture? No amount of research I did was able to help with deciphering that number. The hub was disassembled to check function and internal condition and it appears to be nearly unused and functions flawlessly. There is very little wear visible on the faces of the sprocket teeth. Most coaster brakes you are familiar with use internal discs and spacers much like automotive clutch assemblies which when compressed create the necessary friction to effect braking. This on the other hand has as an integral part of the braking arm a cam operated expander which under back pedaling pressure causes the steel shoes to expand against the inside of the hub drum. The braking arm assembly itself appears to be either cast brass or bronze. In operation, this is much more similar to a drum brake than a standard coaster brake in that it uses a kick back motion rather than a cable or rod to operate the braking cam. Note that the very end of the brake arm has been altered slightly which during use will be located under the chainstay strap and not visible. Quite an interesting piece of early bicycle technology."

New Departure Bell Company History

The following information was found at New Departure Manufacturing Company Written by Bill Bowman
New Departure Bell Company was formed in 1888 by brothers Albert and Edward Rockwell in Bristol, Connecticut as a manufacturer of doorbells. They began operations at one end of a clock factory, manufacturing doorbells. Soon after, they branched out manufacturing various other products. In 1898, New Departure introduced the bicycle coaster brake and in 1903 they also began making brakes for belt and chain-driven motorcycles. Large quantities of bicycle front and rear wheel hubs were produced."

So the Plot thickens, in 1898 there were two separate companies making "New Departure" Coaster Brake hubs up to at least 1906, P.&F. Corbin Co. and New Departure Bell Company. So far no links between the two so I will start searching for court cases since sometime between 1906 and 1911 Corbin quit using the New Departure monicker on their hubs.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/near-mint-1898-departure-bell-co-hub-129755270
 
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Ready to say "CHARGE AHEAD" after the last 2 finds/posts so........

that calls for some fun in the form of another 1910 Corbin postcard, "The Charge of the Light Brigade"......

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More Fun Stuff: New Departure had pinback buttons too, ND Model A

Really neat one, I just love these!!!!!!

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New Updates / Finds get updated in Post #1

Everyone, please remember to keep looking back at Post #1 in this thread. Every new piece of information we uncover is getting added back there to the timeline for these two hub manufacturers.....
 
Corbin Two-Speed Model 10 Coaster Brake Patent 1906

CORBIN TWO-SPEED HUB, CHARLES W. SVENSON, Patent number: 813464, Filing date: Dec 12, 1904, Issue date: Feb 27, 1906

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Corbin Two-Speed Model 10 Coaster Brake Patent #2 1906

CORBIN TWO-SPEED HUB, CHARLES W. SVENSON, Patent number: 813465, Filing date: May 31, 1905, Issue date: Feb 27, 1906

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