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Henry Lloyd fancy frameset
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Jesper
Wore out three sets of tires already!
Good question! I have not cleaned them up yet. I should have them somewhat cleaner today and hopefully there will be an indication as to their make; too bad they were not chromed. This frame appears to have been situated near the coast since all exposed steel is corroded (no deep pitting) the front and rear fork ends, as well as where paint was lost on mounting points at the crown and brake bridge. BB shell, head tube, fork race seat are okay, and the inside of the tubes seem good. The worst spots are the drop-outs.
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dnc1
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
It would rust like that wherever it lived it's life over here, LOL, not only by the coast.
Everything rusts in our relatively damp climate, and in winter, road de-icing salt is used UK wide!
juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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any readers who have ever looked closely at the denizens of the British Isles will have noticed that they have mildew culturing in all of their body crevices...
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dnc1
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
I couldn't possibly comment.
Jesper
Wore out three sets of tires already!
Here is another comment from a local patron of the Lloyd's shop (TrevA at Cycling UK forum
"Henry Lloyd’s was my local bike shop, on Meadow Road, in Netherfield, Notts. I seem to remember someone saying Henry set up his business in the late 1950’s (way before my time, I was born in 1959). For most of his time, he was a 1 man band. His shop was something of an Aladdin’s Cave of bike parts. I bought a Holdsworth Professional frame from Henry in 1975, he used to keep a small stock of named brand frames for sale (Holdsworth, Falcon, Claud Butler, etc). He was my go-to place for parts, tyres and accessories. Henry himself retired in the late 1970’s and sold the business to Mick and Francis, and Gary Wharton, who were all members of Nottingham Clarion (as was Henry). Mick’s surname was Polish, something like Cziorka, not White, hence the nickname “Chalky”. I can’t recall the exact spelling. Henry only started offering his own brand of frames in the late 70’s, I’m not sure whether they were brought in and badged up or whether they were built in house. The Henry Lloyd business itself shut down in the mid 1980’s and Mick went on to work at the Freewheel shop in Hockley, Nottingham. He stayed there for around 30 years, until it closed down in the mid-2010’s. I bought a Ridgeback Panorama from Mick at Freewheel in 2009."
Given that the account is of the shop starting to sell their branded frames in the late 70s, and then being closed sometime in the mid 80s it definitely restricts the time frame of when this bike was made. I'm happy enough to have some corroborating statements and know that the frame was built within about a 8 year time frame ('78-'86?).
I will continue to update should anymore info become available; but I at least think that we are getting closer to the truth regarding who made it, and when it may have been made.
"Henry Lloyd’s was my local bike shop, on Meadow Road, in Netherfield, Notts. I seem to remember someone saying Henry set up his business in the late 1950’s (way before my time, I was born in 1959). For most of his time, he was a 1 man band. His shop was something of an Aladdin’s Cave of bike parts. I bought a Holdsworth Professional frame from Henry in 1975, he used to keep a small stock of named brand frames for sale (Holdsworth, Falcon, Claud Butler, etc). He was my go-to place for parts, tyres and accessories. Henry himself retired in the late 1970’s and sold the business to Mick and Francis, and Gary Wharton, who were all members of Nottingham Clarion (as was Henry). Mick’s surname was Polish, something like Cziorka, not White, hence the nickname “Chalky”. I can’t recall the exact spelling. Henry only started offering his own brand of frames in the late 70’s, I’m not sure whether they were brought in and badged up or whether they were built in house. The Henry Lloyd business itself shut down in the mid 1980’s and Mick went on to work at the Freewheel shop in Hockley, Nottingham. He stayed there for around 30 years, until it closed down in the mid-2010’s. I bought a Ridgeback Panorama from Mick at Freewheel in 2009."
Given that the account is of the shop starting to sell their branded frames in the late 70s, and then being closed sometime in the mid 80s it definitely restricts the time frame of when this bike was made. I'm happy enough to have some corroborating statements and know that the frame was built within about a 8 year time frame ('78-'86?).
I will continue to update should anymore info become available; but I at least think that we are getting closer to the truth regarding who made it, and when it may have been made.
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Jesper
Wore out three sets of tires already!
From what I have found researching some Shimano catalogs is that the Dura-Ace "UF" series of semi-vertical drop-out was shown as early as the '79 model year catalog (printed Spring of '78), and as late as the 1981 model year catalog (printed 12/80). So far all examples (catalogs, et al.) other than the one on this frame have the upper and lower stop tabs on the hanger.
