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There is a famous dialogue in The Sun Also Rises: How did you go bankrupt? Two ways - gradually and then suddenly. Schwinn's demise was that way.

The red flags went back at least to the bike boom period, when the market was shifting to lugged, imported bikes. Schwinn buying and re-branding lugged, Japanese-made frames was a band aid. Schwinn's ability to sell masses of Varsities provided cash but the market shift was a red flag that the plant and welded frames were falling badly out of step. By the time later on when new plant and lugged production was being explored in earnest, the damage was largely done.

Schwinn's reputation was transformed gradually from that of a premium bike builder to a seller of kids' bikes and entry-level road bikes. The fillet brazed models were better but hand-building frames in that older way was not the answer long-term in a changing market. It also did not help that even mid-level models were being equipped with parts that were considered down market (e.g., one-piece cranks on Super Sport bikes). The early years of Trek bikes ultimately filled the role that Schwinn could have played, of a middle to premium level builder of lugged bikes in the US. What was done at Waterford with the high-end stuff at least saved a sliver of the old business.

But as long as you're selling huge numbers of kids' bikes and Varsities, the cash keeps flowing in and the underlying capital problem is masked. It also does not help that family dynasty trusts tend to be poor at running businesses. Trusts tend to be cash-centric and very conservative in those times when you need capital improvements on the business side.

I have a differing opinion on early mountain bikes and Schwinn. This is often portrayed as a huge, lost opportunity. There was something of an opportunity lost, but I think it is overstated. Early mountain biking was deeply rooted in a west coast counterculture that was at odds with the corporate, middle-America background a brand new Schwinn represented. I'm sure some people would have welcomed a Schwinn-made mountain bike, but so much of the early mountain bike scene valued the do-it-yourself, mish-mash, gonzo type bike element. Stingrays started as a west coast thing, but the cultural hostility to "corporate" and "sellout" was much more pronounced in the mid and late 1970s than anything that existed in the early 1960s. The stronger path for Schwinn would have been into that early Trek type role of mid-level and high-quality all purpose touring and road frames.
 
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There is a famous dialogue in The Sun Also Rises: How did you go bankrupt? Two ways - gradually and then suddenly. Schwinn's demise was that way.

The red flags went back at least to the bike boom period, when the market was shifting to lugged, imported bikes. Schwinn buying and re-branding lugged, Japanese-made frames was a band aid. Schwinn's ability to sell masses of Varsities provided cash but the market shift was a red flag that the plant and welded frames were falling badly out of step. By the time later on when new plant and lugged production was being explored in earnest, the damage was largely done.

Schwinn's reputation was transformed gradually from that of a premium bike builder to a seller of kids' bikes and entry-level road bikes. The fillet brazed models were better but hand-building frames in that older way was not the answer long-term in a changing market. It also did not help that even mid-level models were being equipped with parts that were considered down market (e.g., one-piece cranks on Super Sport bikes). The early years of Trek bikes ultimately filled the role that Schwinn could have played, of a middle to premium level builder of lugged bikes in the US. What was done at Waterford with the high-end stuff at least saved a sliver of the old business.

But as long as you're selling huge numbers of kids' bikes and Varsities, the cash keeps flowing in and the underlying capital problem is masked. It also does not help that family dynasty trusts tend to be poor at running businesses. Trusts tend to be cash-centric and very conservative in those times when you need capital improvements on the business side.

I have a differing opinion on early mountain bikes and Schwinn. This is often portrayed as a huge, lost opportunity. There was something of an opportunity lost, but I think it is overstated. Early mountain biking was deeply rooted in a west coast counterculture that was at odds with the corporate, middle-America background a brand new Schwinn represented. I'm sure some people would have welcomed a Schwinn-made mountain bike, but so much of the early mountain bike scene valued the do-it-yourself, mish-mash, gonzo type bike element. Stingrays started as a west coast thing, but the cultural hostility to "corporate" and "sellout" was much more pronounced in the mid and late 1970s than anything that existed in the early 1960s. The stronger path for Schwinn would have been into that early Trek type role of mid-level and high-quality all purpose touring and road frames.

I would like to take your thought and move it one step further.

The Bike Boom, well there were actually several (BMX, MTB, Fitness) but the one that most think of was the early 1970's Bike Boom. IMO, this is the worst thing that ever happened to the bicycle industry. It gave everyone a false sense of where the bicycle industry was headed. No one ever considered it to end. Dealers went out and purchased property, built large buildings. It was much easier and less painful to gear up for the higher sales volume. New brand competition showed up overnight. To build bicycles in the 1940's and 50's you actually needed a real brick and mortar factory to accomplish the job. But by the middle of the 1970's the only thing you needed was a Letter of Credit from your bank. That LC was sent offshore with your bicycle order and in 90 to 120 days you had a shipping container backing up to your door with 200-300 bicycles made specifically to your order. Even the larger retail bicycle dealers were placing their own container orders for "house brands". In time, the Boom Burst and it sucked up not only bicycle companies, but distributors and dealers. During the Boom, dealers spent like there was not going to be a tomorrow. Drunken Sailors was an often-used term. They bought new houses, sports cars, Class A motorhomes, etc. But when the boom sales years ended, it took many businesses with it.

When I look back, this business cycle has repeated itself over and over. By 2006 I was working in the powersports industry, and the sudden financial change took out lots of motorcycle dealerships because they could not reduce their floor inventory quickly which was all on "inventory flooring, with their finance company". In round numbers, it costs a motorcycle dealer $50/month for interest for every unit in their inventory. Then consider the empty retail location costs them $1.00/per square foot per month, which translates to $30K to $40K in rent per month, added to their inventory flooring. Just like bicycle dealerships they operate on a skinny margin and the only way to survive is with high volume.

We discuss these cycles, we know better based on what history has taught us, but I think our greed will pull us into the mess the next time the cycle spins again. Just look at the electric bicycle industry today for the next crash. It's like the wild west today, government regulations are enviable for electric bicycles and scooters. You can't ride a motorized bicycle/moped/scooter down a sidewalk, or in my case the wrong way on a street at 30 plus MPH without causing accidents. The inventory costs are high for the dealers, and Powersports dealers are uncertain if they want to be in, or out of the industry, the product technology is changing quickly, not a good thing for dealers with floor inventory.

It's fun to be retired and just sit back and watch how these current challenges will be handled.

John
 
The worst thing the bike boom did was to establish drop bars and tight geometry as "normal". The logic went that it's not a serious bike if it's not a racing bike... We've lived with that mentality ever since. Never mind that most casual adult riders do better with flat bars or upright bars, wider saddle, and something you can ride in normal street clothes. I shouldn't get started on all that though...

Your point about boom and bust is very true in the bicycle industry. There's been a real downturn since the "bust" after the COVID-related boom in bikes. Shops have inventory they can't move and they over-spent. Wiggle and Performance Bike both went bankrupt.
 
The worst thing the bike boom did was to establish drop bars and tight geometry as "normal". The logic went that it's not a serious bike if it's not a racing bike... We've lived with that mentality ever since. Never mind that most casual adult riders do better with flat bars or upright bars, wider saddle, and something you can ride in normal street clothes. I shouldn't get started on all that though...

Your point about boom and bust is very true in the bicycle industry. There's been a real downturn since the "bust" after the COVID-related boom in bikes. Shops have inventory they can't move and they over-spent. Wiggle and Performance Bike both went bankrupt.

IMO, the best adult frame style ever was the European type Mixte Frames, like Motobecane, Gitane, Peugeot, and many, etc. It's not a male/female thing, they are easy for adults with stand over height, and they had flat tourist style handlebars and a tourist saddle. the Mixte frames were just as stiff as a traditional men's frame, they produced a nice ride. The Ladies Le Tour Tourist was a nice riding bike. I see lots of retired guys riding "so called lady's" frames. Let's face it, when your pushing 70 or 80 it gets harder to flip your leg over the rear tire. Nothing is wrong with a step through model, just as long as you keep riding.

I think the post-reaction to the "Bike Boom" sport bike (skinny saddle/low sport handlebars) was shown by the quick growth of the Beach Cruiser sales volume. People actually enjoyed riding a bicycle if it had a comfortable saddle and upright handlebar. Weight was never a consideration with the beach cruiser customer. As a population, we do lots of things for style that are just not in our best interests. Just today I visited a Walmart to find a pair of show stings for my work shoes. All I will say is it's amazing how much body weight spandex shorts and pants will hold. Some things you can't "un-see".

John
 
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The worst thing the bike boom did was to establish drop bars and tight geometry as "normal". The logic went that it's not a serious bike if it's not a racing bike...
Back in 1964 as a 12 year old, a number of friends in my neighborhood were getting Varsities(one spoiled kid got a Continental with chromed fenders).
I really wanted one also. I was riding a 3 speed Traveler.
It took me another year to finally get a Varsity, but when I did, I opted for the tourist version, not the sport version.

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This is a great thread, it inspired me to finally read the book “No Hands The Rise and Fall of Schwinn.” I think all bicycle fans should read it.

I enjoyed reading the first 3/4 of the book, but as Schwinn got closer to the end it became harder to read.

I thought it was interesting on page 232, Schwinn was considering putting there bike in stores. The stores they were looking into were Sportmart, Sears, Wards, Kmart, Target, and Walmart. As we all know Target and Walmart are left.
 
This is a great thread, it inspired me to finally read the book “No Hands The Rise and Fall of Schwinn.” I think all bicycle fans should read it.

I enjoyed reading the first 3/4 of the book, but as Schwinn got closer to the end it became harder to read.

I thought it was interesting on page 232, Schwinn was considering putting there bike in stores. The stores they were looking into were Sportmart, Sears, Wards, Kmart, Target, and Walmart. As we all know Target and Walmart are left.

The loss of our local Sears hit hard. For many years, Sears offered made-in-USA Craftsman tools at a reasonable price. They weren't luxurious, but they were well-made and pretty durable. And then it was gone... An electronics store replaced it for about 2 years, then that went bankrupt too. Now it's a crafts store that sells mostly cheap goods from the orient.
 
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