Show your Davis built bicycles

[The Shootist]

Patric,
I've been scouring for weeks, about to relent, much gratitude. Badge shadow lines up perfectly with the King.
You wouldn't happen to know any sources that might have said badge, or any other late teens davis built that could "fit", conceptually/physically.
Hole spacing is 2 5/16" center to center.

The Shootist .... surely there is a clearer image of this partial, 1918 Sear's ad from The CABE.
Built by Davis for Sear's.


Not really sure how similar / different the King arch-bar is ... to / from a Davis-Badged machine.


...... patric



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[bricycle]

After reading 333 posts I believe this is a 1919 Dayton Model 162
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...MY QUESTION IS,
is this the first mfg. to make a moto with is this size/shape tank opening? looks like it would take one of those No.1000 tanks.....?

 

[hoofhearted]

Patric,
I've been scouring for weeks, about to relent, much gratitude. Badge shadow lines up perfectly with the King.
You wouldn't happen to know any sources that might have said badge, or any other late teens davis built that could "fit", conceptually/physically.
Hole spacing is 2 5/16" center to center.

The Shootist ... first and foremost ... are you gonna do a resto ?

The KING badge may be found thru an ad in the WTB section. You must show
a pic of this badge ... otherwize everyone and their kid brother will be wantin'
to show you their Elgin King Badge. You don't want that badge ... it belongs
on the correct frame for an Elgin King.

Think of building a rider with what you have AND the proper badge attached.

Davis badges are interesting but can be pricey. Please do not stick a Davis
Dayton up front ... the Dayton model had many different features than
the Davis-Builts.

Put a badge on your machine ... the badge is the SOUL of the Bicycle.

A hole (or three) in a headtube is fillable.

I recommend staying within the Davis line. Avoid the Davis-Sear's Line ...
unless you are building the KING. Each Sear's badge adorned a particular
frame style.

A Victor badge may look kool ... but it is just wrong. See the Sear's Ad ......

Pick a badge that you really like to look at. Maybe a private-label hardware
store badge you like. Many of these have Indians .. Aeroplanes and other
interesting images on them.

The last thing you wanna do is affix a Hendee Indian Badge up front. This
badge represents a manufacturer ... while a Mohawk reps a tribe.

There is an older thread in the CABE ... Show Your Primo Badges ...
lots of peeps of fave badges from the membership.

Found the ''bulldog'' ornament on google. It is a found-object re-purposed
as a badge. I like the thought of turning something into a badge. Especially
if you are building a one-off.


.......... patric

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[sm2501]

Here are pictures of my Sear's King...lousy pictures at that...

These are off the ebay auction when I bought the bike. I would take better pictures and share, but the bike is temporally buried right now.

Scott

 

[The Shootist]

Definitely a rider, I do around 150 mi a week so will make compromises.

I'm with you, I've chased down badges for all of my bikes as I believe them to be a portal into their soul's universe.

I'll check the primo thread and post in WTB. If I could spy a correct King, I'd dig pretty deep for it.

Thanks again Patric for all guidance, I'd like to keep my resto sins in the forgivable category.

The Shootist ... first and foremost ... are you gonna do a resto ?

The KING badge may be found thru an ad in the WTB section. You must show
a pic of this badge ... otherwize everyone and their kid brother will be wantin'
to show you their Elgin King Badge. You don't want that badge ... it belongs
on the correct frame for an Elgin King.

Think of building a rider with what you have AND the proper badge attached.

Davis badges are interesting but can be pricey. Please do not stick a Davis
Dayton up front ... the Dayton model had many different features than
the Davis-Builts.

Put a badge on your machine ... the badge is the SOUL of the Bicycle.

A hole (or three) in a headtube is fillable.

I recommend staying within the Davis line. Avoid the Davis-Sear's Line ...
unless you are building the KING. Each Sear's badge adorned a particular
frame style.

A Victor badge may look kool ... but it is just wrong. See the Sear's Ad ......

Pick a badge that you really like to look at. Maybe a private-label hardware
store badge you like. Many of these have Indians .. Aeroplanes and other
interesting images on them.

The last thing you wanna do is affix a Hendee Indian Badge up front. This
badge represents a manufacturer ... while a Mohawk reps a tribe.

There is an older thread in the CABE ... Show Your Primo Badges ...
lots of peeps of fave badges from the membership.

Found the ''bulldog'' ornament on google. It is a found-object re-purposed
as a badge. I like the thought of turning something into a badge. Especially
if you are build a one-off.


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[The Shootist]

Scott,
Thanks for the pics! So cool to actually see one and not just the ad from 1918.
I know it's a slim chance but I'll post a WTB for a King badge.
May I use your badge photo as reference?
Jim

Here are pictures of my Sear's King...lousy pictures at that...

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These are off the ebay auction when I bought the bike. I would take better pictures and share, but the bike is temporally buried right now.

Scott

 

[sm2501]

Scott,
Thanks for the pics! So cool to actually see one and not just the ad from 1918.
I know it's a slim chance but I'll post a WTB for a King badge.
May I use your badge photo as reference?
Jim

Of course, good luck with your search.

Scott

 

[Lux Low]

Davis Frames Vs Harley Davidson Frames

I recently Jumped at a Harley Davidson Project and pretty much got Horn Swalgeled, Although No Biggie since the seller will take it back. I Thought i was getting my first Davis and A HD to Boot, Clearly the frame was not Davis. Still mulling it over because it did have a few HD parts. Couple questions for you Buffs.
1. How many Davis frames are out there with the HD rear drop outs (the Non Sleeved Chain adjusters) common, not common, %, and brand names.
2. Was the Harley triple crown fork or the davis racer fork used on any other davis bicycles and are they common, not common, %, and brand names.
3. Is the Davis Truss fork common across the board , used in dayton, yale, Harley Davidson etc.

thanx
unsure why I wanted a HD when i really want a Dayton

 

[hoofhearted]

Lux Low ... I will make an attempt to answer some of your inquiries thru your entry, below ...

I recently Jumped at a Harley Davidson Project and pretty much got Horn Swalgeled, Although No Biggie since the seller will take it back. I Thought i was getting my first Davis and A HD to Boot, Clearly the frame was not Davis. Still mulling it over because it did have a few HD parts. Couple questions for you Buffs.

1. How many Davis frames are out there with the HD rear drop outs (the Non Sleeved Chain adjusters) common, not common, %, and brand names.

Number is unknown.

Generally speaking ... ALL Davis-Made machines have the Tee-Pee Style (non-sleeved) adjusters, except for those listed in the next sentence.

The 'sleeved-adjuster' is found ONLY on the Dayton brand. However, it is sometimes encountered on the Yale brand.

For one reason or another ... the 'sleeved-adjuster' also shows up very frequently on most-any machine produced by Davis as a 1918 model, as well.

2. Was the Harley triple crown fork or the davis racer fork used on any other davis bicycles and are they common, not common, %, and brand names.

The H-D triple-plate fork is exclusive to H-D. At least it is exclusive as an item that appeared in no-other catalogs than H-D 1917 thru 1921.
These unusual forks MAY HAVE BEEN used on other Davis machines AFTER Davis was no-longer producing machines for H-D.

The Racer-Fork is exclusive to all Davis-Built racers. Neither the H-D triple-plate nor the Davis-Built racer fork are common.

I must say, I respect your lack of using the word, rare ... the word has come to be a 'selling-feature' and has little to do with the in-frequency a particular, named-object
is found.

3. Is the Davis Truss fork common across the board , used in dayton, yale, Harley Davidson etc.

The Davis Truss Forks are seldom-seen. They are often confused with Excelsior T-Forks, of Michigan City, Indiana.

There are THREE TYPES of DAVIS TRUSS FORKS ... The DAYTON Type .. used on Dayton-Badged machine, only.

The DAVIS Standard Truss Fork ... and ... The DAVIS Heavy-Duty Truss Fork ... either of these last-two T-forks could be used on any Davis machine
calling for a truss-fork .. sold by a distributor that sold only specific badge-brands of Davis ... speciality-distributers such as Sear's ... or machines that
were to be sold by another manufacturer, such as H-D.

thanx
unsure why I wanted a HD when i really want a Dayton

Look ... am goin' outside to spark a decent forty-five cent cigar ... when I get back .. I will post
some fotos regarding the H-D triple-plate fork ..... in the meantime .. please review the fotos
and captions revealed within previous entries to this thread.

..... patric cafaro

SPACER

<< Fork Left Is The Same Fork As Fork Right >>

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[chitown]

Triple Plate examples

Patric,

Any guesses on the maker of this Elgin triple-plate truss fork? I was thinking Snyder or Excelsior mid-late twenties but this is only a wild guess. I have seen some examples of the triple plate fork without truss rods on other bikes besides HD. I will have to do more digging to come up with examples.

Here are some more pics for reference: