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dnc1

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
The bars have definitely been painted at some later point in time.
Celluloid covered ones would be black all the way to the ends. Powder coating the bars is something that people now do in place of the celluloid coating, it gives a very similar effect.
The aluminium mudguards are likely to be later replacements, aluminium components are pretty rare on pre war bicycles.
Bluemels are what you generally see on British lightweights of the '30s and usually of 26" size.
 

SirMike1983

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
I would take the aluminum fenders over the celluloid ones any day of the week. Those old celluloid ones get really brittle. I have aluminum bluemels on my '51 Clubman and love them. A modern plastic substitute, I think, is a fair compromise to make as well. Personally, I would not spend big bucks on celluloid originals if you plan to ride the bike much. I'd go with aluminum or ones of a more modern plastic.
 

Schwinny

Finally riding a big boys bike
The bars have definitely been painted at some later point in time.
Celluloid covered ones would be black all the way to the ends. Powder coating the bars is something that people now do in place of the celluloid coating, it gives a very similar effect.
The aluminium mudguards are likely to be later replacements, aluminium components are pretty rare on pre war bicycles.
Bluemels are what you generally see on British lightweights of the '30s and usually of 26" size.
Being that you probably have seen a couple of the Black bar style. Would the black color on the bars be a gloss similar to the frame? Satin, Flat?
Although a very good depiction, I can't tell by the drawing of the bike in the 36' catalog whether the stem was black or chromed. Some of the bikes in the catalog are definitely at least natural but some look black. My stem was the rustiest thing on the bike but I did detect what looked like black color in places before I dipped it. It is very light tube steel with brazed on clamp nibs.
 

juvela

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
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speaking of black finishes...

in this image the bottom bracket cups are clearly black oxide while the lockring shows a different finish

is it painted/dipped/other?

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Schwinny

Finally riding a big boys bike
I would take the aluminum fenders over the celluloid ones any day of the week. Those old celluloid ones get really brittle. I have aluminum bluemels on my '51 Clubman and love them. A modern plastic substitute, I think, is a fair compromise to make as well. Personally, I would not spend big bucks on celluloid originals if you plan to ride the bike much. I'd go with aluminum or ones of a more modern plastic.
I've found a couple sets of 50's / 60's plastic versions but not stamped Bluemels. Most likely Britannia it seems, which I think was in league with Hercules company from what I read. Direct competition so Im standoffish on those. The older parts get, the more pricey things become and Ive been stuck with stuff before that I cant use so Im going to be a little picky. Id try and straighten the ones I have but there are pieces missing. Also they are/were white whereas the catalog states black w/ white safety rear piece. With modern paints I can change the color of plastic fenders so Im not stuck on a color. They just seem to be the parts that are the most often crunched. Mine probably are post war fenders They are shark fin front style whereas the catalog shows pointed front. I do have an early steel pointed front fender that may see a little service if it comes down to it.
Also found the correct Lycette Aero saddle but it will need some work if I want to ride on it.... and I do.
 
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Schwinny

Finally riding a big boys bike
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speaking of black finishes...

in this image the bottom bracket cups are clearly black oxide while the lockring shows a different finish

is it painted/dipped/other?

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Looks more like blued, similar to gun metal.
Im going to have to file down the dents and burrs. It took a couple hits from the previous mentioned long ago pin pounding and the notches are gnarled up so Im not sure what Im going to do with it yet.
The plater here in town I use does all kinds of metal finish so I"ll see what they can do for it.
Im going to do all the plating in three groups over 3 months and I'll be going there next week to take the first batch.
 
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dnc1

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
I would take the aluminum fenders over the celluloid ones any day of the week. Those old celluloid ones get really brittle. I have aluminum bluemels on my '51 Clubman and love them. A modern plastic substitute, I think, is a fair compromise to make as well. Personally, I would not spend big bucks on celluloid originals if you plan to ride the bike much. I'd go with aluminum or ones of a more modern plastic.
They do get very brittle and it's quite rare to see a bike that's regularly used with undamaged mudguards.

Being that you probably have seen a couple of the Black bar style. Would the black color on the bars be a gloss similar to the frame? Satin, Flat?
Although a very good depiction, I can't tell by the drawing of the bike in the 36' catalog whether the stem was black or chromed. Some of the bikes in the catalog are definitely at least natural but some look black. My stem was the rustiest thing on the bike but I did detect what looked like black color in places before I dipped it. It is very light tube steel with brazed on clamp nibs.
Usually a gloss black.
 
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