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Pre War Lincoln Badged Schwinn info needed.
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Joseph Frost
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I have it's CLOSE mate....1941, according to crank, Lincoln. Serial number 137.
GTs58
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Really odd serial number stampings on those two. There must be some significant reason for that.
Oilit
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
I think these are Schwinn lightweights from before 1939. The New Worlds were introduced in 1939 but the seat stays on the New World ran straight up to either side of the seat post, these are more like the pre-war balloon frames. The only lightweight in the 1938 catalog is this "Racer" with 28" tires:
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GTs58
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
But both of these have a 1941 crank.
Oilit
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Maybe Schwinn was clearing out some leftover frames? Beats me.
SirMike1983
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
I agree that it's not a just New World with a Lincoln badge - the frame is too different from the New World Tourist. I hesitate to call them a "lightweight" because the frame might be a diamond, but it's heavily constructed like ballooners or antique type bikes.
They remind me a lot of the kinds of bikes that were made before WWII for Western Union and similar businesses or local government - built like an adult bike with a diamond frame, but heavily constructed similar to an antique period bike or early ballooner. With the weird, low serial numbers, I wonder if these are part of a smaller run of bikes made for a business that used bikes, or some kind of local government/police where a small fleet bikes would be used.
They remind me a lot of the kinds of bikes that were made before WWII for Western Union and similar businesses or local government - built like an adult bike with a diamond frame, but heavily constructed similar to an antique period bike or early ballooner. With the weird, low serial numbers, I wonder if these are part of a smaller run of bikes made for a business that used bikes, or some kind of local government/police where a small fleet bikes would be used.
GTs58
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The special batch of frames for a special order of some sort.
rennfaron
Wore out three sets of tires already!
I always assumed that these frames were the Racer and predecessor to the "lightweights" that kicked off in the late 30s (Paramount, Superior, New World), as shown in that catalog image above.
I have two of these saved. Obviously the first example has been tinkered with and new decals, and maybe other parts added, but you can see the frame and the crank setup matches the two shown in this thread. The first one is Lincoln badged.
The second one the frame is consistent and more parts aligned to the Racer, but the chain ring potentially swapped. No badge found on this one, but you can see vertical mounting holes (Lincoln?). Does have the Persons saddle, which is what these would have had.
Maybe as they were switching over to tourist setups they had to use some Racer frames to get those efforts going (edit - just realized this could not take place because of the seat post clamp issue stated next). The one thing I don't get is the difference in the seat post clamp setup, so that is something you can't convert over from a Racer...which makes me think the three tourist frames shown are some sort of transitional thing.
I have two of these saved. Obviously the first example has been tinkered with and new decals, and maybe other parts added, but you can see the frame and the crank setup matches the two shown in this thread. The first one is Lincoln badged.
The second one the frame is consistent and more parts aligned to the Racer, but the chain ring potentially swapped. No badge found on this one, but you can see vertical mounting holes (Lincoln?). Does have the Persons saddle, which is what these would have had.
Maybe as they were switching over to tourist setups they had to use some Racer frames to get those efforts going (edit - just realized this could not take place because of the seat post clamp issue stated next). The one thing I don't get is the difference in the seat post clamp setup, so that is something you can't convert over from a Racer...which makes me think the three tourist frames shown are some sort of transitional thing.
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Oilit
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
You may be right. Leon Dixon said a lot of pre-war bikes were converted to 26 x 1.375 wheels and tires during the war because that was the only size bike tire being made (he calls them "war mongrels"), but that doesn't explain the serial numbers.
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