cyclingday
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Yep!
I see that, on closer inspection.
Perfect overlap.
I see that, on closer inspection.
Perfect overlap.
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Wartime Schwinn New World Bikes - We Know You Have Them - Tell Us About Them!!
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Sportyworty
Wore out three sets of tires already!
Going to page 1 and read it all as armchair time permits.
The Iver, Dx, and CWC threads were amazing !
The collective knowledge of Cabe members over decades now is impressive.
The Iver, Dx, and CWC threads were amazing !
The collective knowledge of Cabe members over decades now is impressive.
Oilit
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
At first glance, that roughly corresponds with the number of 1942 New Worlds as compared to 1943-45. So Miq, that confirms that your dates are about right.
Miq
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
@Mercian Adrian, thank you for posting this here. It is interesting to see all the production laid out. I wonder if people can help add more detail to the Schwinn specific numbers. Like total production numbers for the non-wartime years. 43 and 44 Schwinn lightweights look to be quite rare.
@Oilit I see your reasoning. Our sample size is finally getting big enough to make some comparisons like that.
@Oilit I see your reasoning. Our sample size is finally getting big enough to make some comparisons like that.
Mercian
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Hi, Mike @Miq
I'm improving post 1114, above.
Can anyone tell me the original sources of these scans below, and whether the books are considered to be reliable?
From the reference to Pacific Cycles, I guess the first one is around 2001?
The second one a bit earlier?
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Adrian
I'm improving post 1114, above.
Can anyone tell me the original sources of these scans below, and whether the books are considered to be reliable?
From the reference to Pacific Cycles, I guess the first one is around 2001?
The second one a bit earlier?
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Adrian
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GTs58
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
I don't have the information on who copied those Schwinn stats, but they did originate from Schwinn. I'm sure Mark Mattei has all that Schwinn published information. Those scans were provided by Tom Findley. https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/schwinn-catalog-scans/
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Mercian
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Hi, and Thanks Gary @GTs58 . (-:
Going on the figures above, this is an assessment of Schwinn WW2 bicycle production, with references.
US Army document 'Summary Report of Tank-Automotive Material Acceptances 1945', page 165. September 1945.
Schwinn published article 'Bicycles in Delivery Service' . Circa Late 1947.
Schwinn published article on 'Production Numbers for Schwinn'. Circa 2001
Best Regards,
Adrian
Going on the figures above, this is an assessment of Schwinn WW2 bicycle production, with references.
US Army document 'Summary Report of Tank-Automotive Material Acceptances 1945', page 165. September 1945.
Schwinn published article 'Bicycles in Delivery Service' . Circa Late 1947.
Schwinn published article on 'Production Numbers for Schwinn'. Circa 2001
Best Regards,
Adrian
Mercian
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Hi All,
Following on from Post 1114, above. I have modified the table to allow for the Schwinn production figures. I also reassessed the Huffman production figures, and have included references and approximations on the table.
The Huffman figures are based on a statistical analysis of the Survivor numbers I've collected, usually using about 15 to 20 bicycles per year. It will be slightly biased, because I've been more likely to collect G519 numbers than civilian bikes, but won't be too far off.
There may also be errors in the original information.
We know from a discovery this year that a G519 type bicycle serialled MG46352 was made by Westfield in 1945. This does not appear on the statistics, and we don't know if it was a one off or part of a small batch.
Exactly the same number of Cycle Trucks being produced in 1943 and 1944 seems unlikely. Even if the same number per day were produced, 1944 was a leap year.... I suspect it is the total for those two years, divided by 2.
Best Regards,
Adrian
Edited to add more detail on the sources of the numbers.
Following on from Post 1114, above. I have modified the table to allow for the Schwinn production figures. I also reassessed the Huffman production figures, and have included references and approximations on the table.
The Huffman figures are based on a statistical analysis of the Survivor numbers I've collected, usually using about 15 to 20 bicycles per year. It will be slightly biased, because I've been more likely to collect G519 numbers than civilian bikes, but won't be too far off.
There may also be errors in the original information.
We know from a discovery this year that a G519 type bicycle serialled MG46352 was made by Westfield in 1945. This does not appear on the statistics, and we don't know if it was a one off or part of a small batch.
Exactly the same number of Cycle Trucks being produced in 1943 and 1944 seems unlikely. Even if the same number per day were produced, 1944 was a leap year.... I suspect it is the total for those two years, divided by 2.
Best Regards,
Adrian
Edited to add more detail on the sources of the numbers.
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