62? Raleigh Sports with 'Lenton' Dual Drive


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3-speeder

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 26, 2017
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#1
I picked up this Raleigh over the weekend. I'm really happy to have it. It has a 23" frame, beautiful paint scheme and a dual drive system that I haven't seen before. The Sturmey Archer hub is stamped 61 12 and it has three cogs attached and a Benelux dérailleur. I've found a 62 catalog that shows the Lenton with this dual drive system but I can't tell if the paint scheme is unique for this Sports and would've normally been found on a Superbe or what? Do you think '62 is the correct year for this bike? The saddle is a Brooks Champion Standard B 15 with a 65 stamped onto the cantle. I think that the saddle was upgraded later. The paint is in great shape but ironically the electrical tape that was wrapped around the seat tube to keep the water bottle holder from causing damage actually was the cause of paint damage. Here are the pictures.
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juvela

I live for the CABE
Aug 2, 2014
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#2
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Congratulations on this wonderful find.

Do you plan to leave it as it sits or will you do a full tear down?

VDO cyclometer is quite interesting. Usually one sees either S-W or Huret.

Prop stand appears Raleigh marked Shuresta.

Fabulous condition.

How does the license transfer read? Can make out Sylvan________

Your usual outstanding job with the imagery. ;)

Will look forward to following along as you work with it.


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Sven

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Dec 24, 2017
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#3
Sorry, I cant answer any of your questions.
it is a very nice and unique bike.
 
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bulldog1935

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jan 21, 2013
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#4
great acquisition - a tour-worthy tourist

I believe you have the '61/62 factory hybrid drive - definitely wouldn't trust Raleigh catalogs to list all paint offered
 
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usarnie1

Look Ma, No Hands!
Aug 10, 2015
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Woodland Hills, CA
#5
Great find! This bike should be another keeper. It is in fabulous condition! It had to have been stored indoors most of its life. The only noticable outdoor effects are spotting on the Miller generator and tail light. I am presuming that you or the previous owner have already performed a light clean up, as the bike appears to be in near spotless condition.
 
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SirMike1983

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Jun 27, 2008
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Paint is correct - the darts were a short-lived pattern from the early 1960s. The hybrid drive is aftermarket but period correct. Saddle is a later upgrade, but it's a good-quality saddle. The electrical tape is a common addition to prevent damage to the paint, but it usually deteriorates into a goo (soap and water probably will clean it up). The electrical system is aftermarket but period correct.
 

bulldog1935

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jan 21, 2013
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#7
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/catalogs/Raleigh-Catalog-1962.pdf
here's the catalog listing the hybid drive on a '62 Lenton Convertible (Raleigh's trade name for the hybrid drive).
It's little effort to put this drive on any 115mm OLD, 3/8" axle Raleigh which includes every bike built for SA hub.
If Raleigh didn't deliver a limited number of uncatalogued Sports Convertible bikes to dealers, it's little effort for a dealer to create one.
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SirMike1983

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 27, 2008
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#8
Correct - the system was meant as a drop-in, whether at the factory or in the shop. The cogs came en-bloc and dropped onto the driver even. Though it's possible to make your own bloc of drivers with a little effort.

The convertible drive bikes are somewhat uncommon in the US from the factory, and Raleigh tended to use special models to designate a convertible bike from the factory (though exceptions always exist). But a tall frame Sports would be a good platform for a bike shop upgrade. The most important part is that the system be complete and basically period to the bike. Go with the bike as it stands - it's a keeper.
 

3-speeder

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 26, 2017
409
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Lansing, MI, United States
#9
Thanks everyone. The man I got it from gave it a quick spit shine. He picked it up from an estate sale, said it was the best one of a few Raleighs there. I plan to give it a complete tune up, polish and wax and then enjoy it as it is. I've been trying to stick to buying 23" frames and was very happy to get this one. Picked it up in Toledo Ohio and the license reads Sylvania Ohio. I'm thinking the tune up should go smoothly as I've done a few Raleighs but I may need a little advise on the Cyclo, if that's what it is more commonly referred to as. Have no experience with that type of dérailleur. Here is a curiosity to me, Schwinn tires. Maybe modern ones? Wouldn't think they could be the old 597's and seat properly. Size reads only 26 x 1 3/8. Still in pretty good shape too.
Edit note: the size also includes "to fit EA-3 rim"
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Oilit

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 30, 2015
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Concord NC
#10
Thanks everyone. The man I got it from gave it a quick spit shine. He picked it up from an estate sale, said it was the best one of a few Raleighs there. I plan to give it a complete tune up, polish and wax and then enjoy it as it is. I've been trying to stick to buying 23" frames and was very happy to get this one. Picked it up in Toledo Ohio and the license reads Sylvania Ohio. I'm thinking the tune up should go smoothly as I've done a few Raleighs but I may need a little advise on the Cyclo, if that's what it is more commonly referred to as. Have no experience with that type of dérailleur. Here is a curiosity to me, Schwinn tires. Maybe modern ones? Wouldn't think they could be the old 597's and seat properly. Size reads only 26 x 1 3/8. Still in pretty good shape too.
Edit note: the size also includes "to fit EA-3 rim"
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A while back I picked up an early '70's Dunelt 5 Speed with the same tires. You can see them in the last picture:
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/dunelt-5-speed.121771/
And the Schwinn lightweights I've seen all have Schwinn tires, but not the "Spitfires". I'm guessing these were supplied to Schwinn dealerships to fit to non-Schwinns. But if someone knows a better explanation, feel free to enlighten me!
 
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Oilit

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 30, 2015
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And you have a beautiful bike, by the way! Kurt Kaminer's "The Headbadge" web site has a page on dating Raleighs by decals and paint schemes, and that may have been a one-year pattern.
 

3-speeder

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 26, 2017
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Lansing, MI, United States
#12
A while back I picked up an early '70's Dunelt 5 Speed with the same tires. You can see them in the last picture:
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/dunelt-5-speed.121771/
And the Schwinn lightweights I've seen all have Schwinn tires, but not the "Spitfires". I'm guessing these were supplied to Schwinn dealerships to fit to non-Schwinns. But if someone knows a better explanation, feel free to enlighten me!
That makes sense to me. Why else would Schwinn have a 590 tire?
I love that website, The Headbadge. I check it regularly for information. Thank you
edit: I did miss seeing this paint scheme labeled as a 61 on the 'Sports visual i.d.' page. Cool! I love that color combo. It's a wonder that it wasn't used longer.
 
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HARPO

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Dec 28, 2010
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#13
Great looking bike with great photos to match! It was apparently taken care of through its years, and a nice detailing will really make it glow. :)
 
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3-speeder

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 26, 2017
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Lansing, MI, United States
#14
A few images of the saddle. You can see the stamping on the cantle plate. With this saddle being like new it is really stiff. I've used the Brooks proofide to soften up a new Brooks saddle by applying it to the underside but being as this one has a double layer I'm wondering how I could soften it. Any ideas are welcome.
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slowride

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 8, 2017
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Detroit, MI, United States
#15
Beautiful bike. Love the darts. I wonder if ‘62 was last year for them as I have two ‘63s sports and neither have them. My ‘63s have same white grips , prop stand, ribbed white cables , and transfers though.
Just a theory but I wonder if your discomfort with the b15 maybe that it was not intended for a upright riding position like a sports. For these I think B66 or b72 ie sprung and wider work better. Clearly with the Benelux and the b15, the owner wanted to put the “sport” back in and maybe with drop bars it may have worked. Maybe put b15 on the shelf and putting something else on if you can’t get used to it. I would be afraid that much proofhide or worse some other softening agents would permanently deform and ruin it. Like to hear what the real saddle experts say.
 
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3-speeder

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 26, 2017
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Lansing, MI, United States
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I like the B66 or B72 idea. When I get this bike tuned and detailed I'll try swapping in one of those from another bike to see how it feels. Maybe I'll find that sweet Gran Sport or Lenton one of these days that could use a nice B15.
 

Oilit

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 30, 2015
750
610
Concord NC
#18
I've also wondered why this paint scheme wasn't used longer. I have a project bike, this Robin Hood, with the same darts, and I've seen a Rudge on EBay that also had this paint. Unfortunately the Robin Hood had no wheels when I got it, so there's no hub date to go by. But both Rudge and Robin Hood were part of Raleigh Industries before they were bought by Tubing Investments, so maybe it was a Raleigh Industries pattern that got cut short when they were merged with the B.C.C. Hercules bikes featured a similar paint scheme in 1953, as shown on @usarnie1 's post here: https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/1...eth-ii-coronation-celebration-bicycle.139868/
But that seems to have been a one-year special as well, to mark Queen Elizabeth's coronation, and has no connection with the R.I. version that I can tell. But maybe someone in Jolly Old England has information that I don't.

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HARPO

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Dec 28, 2010
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#19
First one I've ever seen in this condition! Lucky you!!!
 

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