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Hendee Mfg Co. / Indian Motocycle Co. Bicycles Information Thread
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Looks like a great collection.
dfa242
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
So cool when you can get pics with original owners - good for you, man!
willswares1220
I live for the CABE
Hey Dave,
That's the one off the farm out of Grafton, Wi. My neck of the woods.I'm just north of there in Port washington.
Pictured is one of the daughters and her mother in her 80's.
I knew about it and talked to the sister pictured, but didn't want to "break the bank" to get it, so I passed.
That is a nice find and you have a nice collection going.
I do Dig your look man!
That's the one off the farm out of Grafton, Wi. My neck of the woods.I'm just north of there in Port washington.
Pictured is one of the daughters and her mother in her 80's.
I knew about it and talked to the sister pictured, but didn't want to "break the bank" to get it, so I passed.
That is a nice find and you have a nice collection going.
I do Dig your look man!
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dave the wave
I live for the CABE
the local paper did a story on the bike too. http://ozaukeepress.com/component/content/article/49-feature-1/4471-a-farmhouse-full-of-memories
dave the wave
I live for the CABE
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Lynn Hennings
Hello, everyone! I confess, I have not been a bike gal...until recently. A local antique dealer suggested I contact a bike club for what I need. Since then I have been excited to check out this page to see what's going on!!
I need help with something for my mother in WI. She has a pre 1925 Indian which was her brother's. I offered to help her with an fair value of it. Are any of you willing to help me with that? I have two photos I will post if anyone is willing. Thanks in advance. PS. I really enjoy all the projects you've been working on!
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Randy Ivers I would imagine that you will receive lots of help! I am new to the hobby so I really have no clue.
August 25 at 7:53pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers Should be a pretty sought after bike. You should post the pics, many would love to see.
August 25 at 7:54pm via mobile · Like · 1
Lynn Hennings Thanks so much! I'll try...
August 25 at 7:55pm via mobile · Like · 2
Tera Gronos Weidendorf Would be interested in seeing pics
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Nick Baxter I'd love to see pictures of it. I would offer a very fair price to buy it if it comes up for sale
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Adam Andsons Welcome to our page. Please post plenty of pictures and I'm sure those of us that can help will and those that can't will still love to see the pictures.
August 25 at 8:58pm via mobile · Like · 2
Lynn Hennings I tried sharing them, but maybe it didn't work. You can go to my personal page to see them.
August 25 at 9:00pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers It worked Lynn.
August 25 at 9:00pm · Like
Randy Ivers I can sse them.
August 25 at 9:01pm · Like
Lynn Hennings Yay! it's cute, isn't it
August 25 at 9:02pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers More like a cool old stud if you don't mind me saying! A true survivor. Awesome.
August 25 at 9:03pm · Like · 1
Randy Ivers what about the other bike in the pic with your mom? Gone?
August 25 at 9:10pm · Like
Lynn Hennings That's the same one. I need more info on it. Like what's a fair price?
August 25 at 9:13pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers oh - it looked green in the pic with your mom - sorry.
August 25 at 9:15pm · Like
Lynn Hennings What, red is bad? The bike is in WI. I live in MN. Morels, eh?
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Randy Ivers I have to defer to the experts - my best guess would be just that. You should have lots of folks chime in - that is a relic. Do you know how to check your messages?
August 25 at 9:16pm · Like
Randy Ivers bigtime morel hunter. no red is not bad.
August 25 at 9:16pm · Like · 1
Randy Ivers my favorite passion and pastime - only a month long season in Mo. I hear really amazing stories about morel hunting in both Mn and Wisc
August 25 at 9:18pm · Like
Randy Ivers bicycles is a really close second!
August 25 at 9:19pm · Like
Dave Nash I am going with gary on this that the bike is circa 1920.i have one with the same fork,lynn i would put a value on your bike at around $2000 its a great bike with alot of family history.bring it to the club's bicycle swap meet next year in june and i will give that much for it.
August 26 at 11:30am · Like
Dave Nash this is a pic of the fork that is on my bike.its the same as yours.and i paid $1000 for this bike.
Dave Nash's photo.
August 26 at 11:42am · Like
Dave Nash and this is my indian.circa 1920.
Dave Nash's photo.
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Lynn Hennings
Hello, everyone! I confess, I have not been a bike gal...until recently. A local antique dealer suggested I contact a bike club for what I need. Since then I have been excited to check out this page to see what's going on!!
I need help with something for my mother in WI. She has a pre 1925 Indian which was her brother's. I offered to help her with an fair value of it. Are any of you willing to help me with that? I have two photos I will post if anyone is willing. Thanks in advance. PS. I really enjoy all the projects you've been working on!
Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · August 25 at 7:47pm
Seen by 92
2 people like this.
Randy Ivers I would imagine that you will receive lots of help! I am new to the hobby so I really have no clue.
August 25 at 7:53pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers Should be a pretty sought after bike. You should post the pics, many would love to see.
August 25 at 7:54pm via mobile · Like · 1
Lynn Hennings Thanks so much! I'll try...
August 25 at 7:55pm via mobile · Like · 2
Tera Gronos Weidendorf Would be interested in seeing pics
August 25 at 8:00pm · Like · 1
Nick Baxter I'd love to see pictures of it. I would offer a very fair price to buy it if it comes up for sale
August 25 at 8:36pm via mobile · Like · 1
Adam Andsons Welcome to our page. Please post plenty of pictures and I'm sure those of us that can help will and those that can't will still love to see the pictures.
August 25 at 8:58pm via mobile · Like · 2
Lynn Hennings I tried sharing them, but maybe it didn't work. You can go to my personal page to see them.
August 25 at 9:00pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers It worked Lynn.
August 25 at 9:00pm · Like
Randy Ivers I can sse them.
August 25 at 9:01pm · Like
Lynn Hennings Yay! it's cute, isn't it
August 25 at 9:02pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers More like a cool old stud if you don't mind me saying! A true survivor. Awesome.
August 25 at 9:03pm · Like · 1
Randy Ivers what about the other bike in the pic with your mom? Gone?
August 25 at 9:10pm · Like
Lynn Hennings That's the same one. I need more info on it. Like what's a fair price?
August 25 at 9:13pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers oh - it looked green in the pic with your mom - sorry.
August 25 at 9:15pm · Like
Lynn Hennings What, red is bad? The bike is in WI. I live in MN. Morels, eh?
August 25 at 9:16pm via mobile · Like
Randy Ivers I have to defer to the experts - my best guess would be just that. You should have lots of folks chime in - that is a relic. Do you know how to check your messages?
August 25 at 9:16pm · Like
Randy Ivers bigtime morel hunter. no red is not bad.
August 25 at 9:16pm · Like · 1
Randy Ivers my favorite passion and pastime - only a month long season in Mo. I hear really amazing stories about morel hunting in both Mn and Wisc
August 25 at 9:18pm · Like
Randy Ivers bicycles is a really close second!
August 25 at 9:19pm · Like
Dave Nash I am going with gary on this that the bike is circa 1920.i have one with the same fork,lynn i would put a value on your bike at around $2000 its a great bike with alot of family history.bring it to the club's bicycle swap meet next year in june and i will give that much for it.
August 26 at 11:30am · Like
Dave Nash this is a pic of the fork that is on my bike.its the same as yours.and i paid $1000 for this bike.
Dave Nash's photo.
August 26 at 11:42am · Like
Dave Nash and this is my indian.circa 1920.
Dave Nash's photo.
August 26 at 11:46am · Like
Dave Nash
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dave the wave
I live for the CABE
nobody would give her a value of the bicycle.so i stepped up to the plate.
willswares1220
I live for the CABE
Hey Dave,
She called me with a price of $2000.00 that was offered and I told her that was a fair offer for both her and the buyer and should take it.
That's good you stepped up to the plate and now have a nice original bike that fits in your collection.
I collect the the earlier stuff ( pre-1900 )
She called me with a price of $2000.00 that was offered and I told her that was a fair offer for both her and the buyer and should take it.
That's good you stepped up to the plate and now have a nice original bike that fits in your collection.
I collect the the earlier stuff ( pre-1900 )
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Gary Mc
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
For dave the wave from Post #84 - Here's what I know
Dave, Here's what I can say is correct or incorrect. Hope this helps.
Dick - I have many Indian bicycles, from 1901/02 thru 1948, so here is what I have found out.
I believe early Indian bicycles were made at the Indian plant, as Hendee made bicycles before starting the Indian name. If I remember correctly, they were called Silver King and Silver Queen.
CORRECT: In 1896, Hendee & Nelson Manufacturing Company at 478 Main Street in Springfield Massachusetts were building safety bicycles under the names of Silver King for men and Silver Queen for women. In 1898, Hendee & Nelson Manufacturing Company went bankrupt and Hendee purchased the entire inventory at auction and set up shop on Worthington Street in Springfield Massachusetts. Somewhere between 1898 & 1901 Hendee began using the Indian name.
Plus the early Indian bicycles have the same head badge (open Indian script-Hendee Manufacturing Co.) as the "camel-back" Indian motorcycles 1901-1905.
CORRECT for 1901-1904 bicycles but there may have been an earlier Indian badge, see post #79
I have a copy of a 1902 Indian bicycle catalog and most of the models were only available in black, with the exception of the model called "Red Indian". That model was available in black, vermillion or royal blue. I have not seen any paperwork on Indian bicycles after 1904/05 until 1915.
CORRECT: Early Indians before 1915 - The last catalog I have been able to find is 1902. The person I bought it from is incorrectly selling it as a 1903 catalog reprint but it clearly states 1902 on page 2. Hendee Manufacturing Co. reported to the The Bicycling World & Motorcycle Review in the Jan. 2, 1904 edition they would continue pedal propelled Indian bicycles in 1904. (See post #51 in this thread) This is the last reference of Indian bicycles I have found prior to their return in 1915. These were manufactured by Hendee.
On the 1902 Catalog:
They manufactured 5 bikes & 1 motocycle, The bikes:
At this time I believe that the Indian bicycles were made by Davis for Indian from 1915-1921.
INCORRECT: In 1915, return of Indian Bicycles announced for 1916 model year
Westfield to build new line-up of Hendee Mfg. Co. Indian Bicycles to add to their Motorcycle business: September 25, 1915, United States Investor periodical reports that Hendee Manufacturing Company has entered into arrangement with the Pope Plant in Westfield, Mass. to build bicycles to add to their motorcycle line-up and calls the addition of bicycles, "the new business is an experiment however, until it proves it's worth". Posts # 25 & 26
The '15-'16 models retained the open script badge,
CORRECT except there was no 1915 Model, any bike sold in 1915 would have been considered a 1916 model year bike
and in 1917 they went to a solid head badge with the Indian head on it.
CORRECT per my 1917 catalog
The '15-'21 models were available in red only with gold stripping, with the exception of the ladies model that was available in black or red.
1916 - CORRECT; 1917 Indian Motorcycle Catalog I have shows the bikes as well but no details. I do not have the 1918 to 1921 catalogs
I believe that Davis/Dayton went out of business in '21/22 and the Indian bicycles were then produced by Columbia.
INCORRECT: All were produced by Westfield in my opinion until someone provides proof otherwise based on: In 1915, return of Indian Bicycles announced for 1916 model year
Westfield to build new line-up of Hendee Mfg. Co. Indian Bicycles to add to their Motorcycle business: September 25, 1915, United States Investor periodical reports that Hendee Manufacturing Company has entered into arrangement with the Pope Plant in Westfield, Mass. to build bicycles to add to their motorcycle line-up and calls the addition of bicycles, "the new business is an experiment however, until it proves it's worth". Posts # 25 & 26
The later 20's models were called "Sagamore" and they did make a model in blue.
INCORRECT: The Sagamore Lineup of bikes appeared after the 1926 catalog, they are not in it. In my 1928 catalog Indian had 2 complete lineups of bicycles, regular Indian bicycles only in Indian Red and a completely separate lineup of bikes called Sagamore only in Indian Blue. So not all Indians were Sagamores in the late 1920's. Also in 1928, the regular lineup in Indian Red has an equipped & non-equipped motobike however the Sagamore Motobike in Indian Blue only came non-equipped.
The teens Indian's head badge was slight narrower and longer than those of the 20's. I also have a German Indian (made in '36/'37 by a German bicycle company under license from Indian. Different head badge, frame and sprocket. I also have a ladies Huffman Indian from 1948. Again, another different head badge. I have a Huffman catalog showing this bicycle. Troxel saddles were used from 1901-1920's. The German bicycle has a unique saddle and the Huffman also.
I would be glad to send you copies of the Indian brochures I have. Email me at [email protected]. Do you have any Indian bicycles? Sharon
Dave, Here's what I can say is correct or incorrect. Hope this helps.
Dick - I have many Indian bicycles, from 1901/02 thru 1948, so here is what I have found out.
I believe early Indian bicycles were made at the Indian plant, as Hendee made bicycles before starting the Indian name. If I remember correctly, they were called Silver King and Silver Queen.
CORRECT: In 1896, Hendee & Nelson Manufacturing Company at 478 Main Street in Springfield Massachusetts were building safety bicycles under the names of Silver King for men and Silver Queen for women. In 1898, Hendee & Nelson Manufacturing Company went bankrupt and Hendee purchased the entire inventory at auction and set up shop on Worthington Street in Springfield Massachusetts. Somewhere between 1898 & 1901 Hendee began using the Indian name.
Plus the early Indian bicycles have the same head badge (open Indian script-Hendee Manufacturing Co.) as the "camel-back" Indian motorcycles 1901-1905.
CORRECT for 1901-1904 bicycles but there may have been an earlier Indian badge, see post #79
I have a copy of a 1902 Indian bicycle catalog and most of the models were only available in black, with the exception of the model called "Red Indian". That model was available in black, vermillion or royal blue. I have not seen any paperwork on Indian bicycles after 1904/05 until 1915.
CORRECT: Early Indians before 1915 - The last catalog I have been able to find is 1902. The person I bought it from is incorrectly selling it as a 1903 catalog reprint but it clearly states 1902 on page 2. Hendee Manufacturing Co. reported to the The Bicycling World & Motorcycle Review in the Jan. 2, 1904 edition they would continue pedal propelled Indian bicycles in 1904. (See post #51 in this thread) This is the last reference of Indian bicycles I have found prior to their return in 1915. These were manufactured by Hendee.
On the 1902 Catalog:
They manufactured 5 bikes & 1 motocycle, The bikes:
- Indian No. 1 - enameled in black with nickeled bright parts
- Indian No. 2 - enameled in black with nickeled bright parts
- Red Indian - enameled in black, vermillion, or royal blue with nickeled bright parts (top of line bike)
- Ladies Indian No. 1 - enameled in black with nickeled bright parts
- Ladies Indian No. 2 - enameled in black with nickeled bright parts
At this time I believe that the Indian bicycles were made by Davis for Indian from 1915-1921.
INCORRECT: In 1915, return of Indian Bicycles announced for 1916 model year
Westfield to build new line-up of Hendee Mfg. Co. Indian Bicycles to add to their Motorcycle business: September 25, 1915, United States Investor periodical reports that Hendee Manufacturing Company has entered into arrangement with the Pope Plant in Westfield, Mass. to build bicycles to add to their motorcycle line-up and calls the addition of bicycles, "the new business is an experiment however, until it proves it's worth". Posts # 25 & 26
The '15-'16 models retained the open script badge,
CORRECT except there was no 1915 Model, any bike sold in 1915 would have been considered a 1916 model year bike
and in 1917 they went to a solid head badge with the Indian head on it.
CORRECT per my 1917 catalog
The '15-'21 models were available in red only with gold stripping, with the exception of the ladies model that was available in black or red.
1916 - CORRECT; 1917 Indian Motorcycle Catalog I have shows the bikes as well but no details. I do not have the 1918 to 1921 catalogs
I believe that Davis/Dayton went out of business in '21/22 and the Indian bicycles were then produced by Columbia.
INCORRECT: All were produced by Westfield in my opinion until someone provides proof otherwise based on: In 1915, return of Indian Bicycles announced for 1916 model year
Westfield to build new line-up of Hendee Mfg. Co. Indian Bicycles to add to their Motorcycle business: September 25, 1915, United States Investor periodical reports that Hendee Manufacturing Company has entered into arrangement with the Pope Plant in Westfield, Mass. to build bicycles to add to their motorcycle line-up and calls the addition of bicycles, "the new business is an experiment however, until it proves it's worth". Posts # 25 & 26
The later 20's models were called "Sagamore" and they did make a model in blue.
INCORRECT: The Sagamore Lineup of bikes appeared after the 1926 catalog, they are not in it. In my 1928 catalog Indian had 2 complete lineups of bicycles, regular Indian bicycles only in Indian Red and a completely separate lineup of bikes called Sagamore only in Indian Blue. So not all Indians were Sagamores in the late 1920's. Also in 1928, the regular lineup in Indian Red has an equipped & non-equipped motobike however the Sagamore Motobike in Indian Blue only came non-equipped.
The teens Indian's head badge was slight narrower and longer than those of the 20's. I also have a German Indian (made in '36/'37 by a German bicycle company under license from Indian. Different head badge, frame and sprocket. I also have a ladies Huffman Indian from 1948. Again, another different head badge. I have a Huffman catalog showing this bicycle. Troxel saddles were used from 1901-1920's. The German bicycle has a unique saddle and the Huffman also.
I would be glad to send you copies of the Indian brochures I have. Email me at [email protected]. Do you have any Indian bicycles? Sharon
dave the wave
I live for the CABE
thank you for the info gary.
Gary Mc
Cruisin' on my Bluebird
You are welcome Dave. Thank You for sharing that SWEET motorbike and the back story on it. Wish we could get more people to post their Indian bikes in this thread.
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