Huffman Dayton G519 Frame Numbers

[Mercian]

Hi @schwinnphantom

If you do start a restoration, then start a topic here with photos, and ask questions. People will be happy to help, especially if there specific problems to resolve.

Good Luck,

Adrian

 

[fat tire trader]

The Morrow hubs with smaller spoke holes can be drilled out. I did one recently for a friend's Whizzer.

 

[schwinnphantom]

Hi @schwinnphantom

If you do start a restoration, then start a topic here with photos, and ask questions. People will be happy to help, especially if there specific problems to resolve.

Good Luck,

Adrian

Here are some photos. One of three frames

 

[Mercian]

Thanks @schwinnphantom

H157317 was built right at the end of 1943 (frame H158382 is the earliest recorded 1944 survivor), and was part of the last contract for Huffman G519, contract number 33008ORD159, running from 10/43 to 3/44. This order was for 6000 bicycles.

If it's the original fork, it is probably dated 113 (Nov 1943) or 123 (Dec 1943) on the back of the crown, see the 114(Nov 1944) example below for what to look for.

The Morrow would probably have been stamped M2 Quarter 2 1943) or M3 (Quarter 3 1943).

Detail from Driftpr's photo of a fork for sale here https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/h...-circa-26”-fork-with-complete-headset.185346/

H157329 is the closest known survivor, belonging to @Tomato John who did a very good writeup on its restoration here which you may find helpful:

Goodbye Elvis, Hello John Wayne! | Military Bicycles

My 38-39 ish Huffman with g519 parts nicknamed Elvis. Worked out a deal with Krakatoa and Elvis left the building and was replaced with what I’m calling John Wayne Now when we put JW together with what was left of Elvis.... hopefully someday we will have this looking forward to getting...

thecabe.com

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[schwinnphantom]

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Thanks @schwinnphantom

H157317 was built right at the end of 1943 (frame H158382 is the earliest recorded 1944 survivor), and was part of the last contract for Huffman G519, contract number 33008ORD159, running from 10/43 to 3/44. This order was for 6000 bicycles.

If it's the original fork, it is probably dated 113 (Nov 1943) or 123 (Dec 1943) on the back of the crown, see the 114(Nov 1944) example below for what to look for.

The Morrow would probably have been stamped M2 Quarter 2 1943) or M3 (Quarter 3 1943).

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Detail from Driftpr's photo of a fork for sale here https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/huffman-dayton-pre-war-1940-41-circa-26”-fork-with-complete-headset.185346/

H157329 is the closest known survivor, belonging to @Tomato John who did a very good writeup on its restoration here which you may find helpful:

Goodbye Elvis, Hello John Wayne! | Military Bicycles

My 38-39 ish Huffman with g519 parts nicknamed Elvis. Worked out a deal with Krakatoa and Elvis left the building and was replaced with what I’m calling John Wayne Now when we put JW together with what was left of Elvis.... hopefully someday we will have this looking forward to getting...

thecabe.com

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Adrian

Thanks for this. Will be checking the other 2 frames for their serial numbers. Will update you again soon.

 

[schwinnphantom]

My 2nd frame. H Series. H12387_ last digit missing because of rusting. Even the 1943 stamp has been corroded.

 

[Mercian]

Thanks again, @schwinnphantom

From the photo, that looks like H123874, you can just see the base of the 4.

This was built for contract number 294ORD2594. The contract was for around 10,000 bikes, and ran from July to November 1943, but this bicycle was probably made around August or September, with probably an M3 (Q3 1943) Morrow, and an 73, 83 or 93 (July to September) dated fork.

The nearest survivor is this complete unrestored example H124670, which will give you a good idea of what yours otiginally looked like.

my debut in the world of G519... - G503 Military Vehicle Message Forums

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Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[schwinnphantom]

3rd frame. But sadly, serial numbers except the H has been eaten by rust. Before cleaning it a while back, i still saw the #3 below the H. Good to know that it is also one of them.

 

[SKPC]

Is there somewhere here with Huffy product numbers or am I in the post offict.

 

[Mercian]

Hi @SKPC

Sorry, I don't quite understand the question. Do you mean Model numbers, quantity of each model produced, or quantity produced per year?

Thanks,

Adrian